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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-11-24 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #5072 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5072 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-11-25 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Ask and ye shall receive: https://www.theoi.com/Olympios/HeraMyths.html#Seduction goes slightly into it, but other varying sources go further to say that he "took advantage of her" after sneaking into her room as a cuckoo. Also even Hesiod says that there were other women before he married Hera, including Demeter which would be impossible if it was right out of Dad's gut.

I will give you I was wrong on the bird, it was a cuckoo and not a sparrow. (To be fair I was drawing that from memory of years ago.)
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-11-25 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, bud, you gotta read the dates on those sources. if it's AD, it's a Roman rewrite, as I suspected. the sparrow myth is not originally greek, it's not even originally roman. We're into post-republic Rome, consider it fanfic because the incest squicked them especially after Augustan purity reforms. regardless, their union is not meant to be about seduction, it's about the power invested in birth order. she's secondary to him in birth order, either as penultimate in birth or second to come out after ingestion, and therefore secondarily most powerful, so the marriage is about abrogating her power to his. so this is a type of subjugation, but not the one you're talking about.

the theoi is a really nice compilation, but that doesn't mean their translations are accurate or contextually placed. but I'll give you hesiod's seven wives version, even if like I said, no seduction is involved.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-27 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, but then given your history here, I really don't trust YOU as a source given you've done all kinds of bullshit and are biased as fuck
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-11-27 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never seen someone write something so clearly embarrassed about being strong and wrong. Name the bullshit and bias, friend.