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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-01-03 04:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #729 ]


⌈ Secret Post #729 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 19 pages, 459 secrets from Secret Submission Post #105.
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Re: 145, 155, 166

[identity profile] lunarwhirl.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Actually? Women, "fat" or "thin", generally don't get respect in the media (fetishization, anyone? It also doesn't help that I'm half-Asian, and Goddess forbid that Asians of any kind weigh more than five pounds) or when looking for jobs (my boss constantly belittles me because I'M A GIIIIIRRRRL, my last boss hired me because they had too many guys, one of my managers is constantly telling me to eat). All I'm saying is that we should all be treated as human beings, and the "fuck them all" was directed towards people who try and make us all feel like acceptance is a dirty word.

Hey, look! Your close-mindedness is showing. :D Fuck off.
Edited 2009-01-05 04:59 (UTC)

Re: 145, 155, 166

(Anonymous) 2009-01-06 12:11 pm (UTC)(link)
So we all deserve more respect...except people who disagree with you, who should fuck off? Is this one of those "don't point out some one's bad grammar, lest you massively fail your language as you try to correct" kind of things or what? And no, I don't just mean you. :D

In any event, I was being more flippant than close-minded. Like I said, I've experienced a lot of weight fluctuation and that, combined with my own culture being fetishized (can you say "Spicy Latina"?) has made me pretty sensitive about the subject as well. If you want to talk culture, try being a scrawny pre-pubescent ("Ay, you will never have curves") filling out ("Fatty!" "Hip huggers are sooo sexy on you"), blowing up ("Get you're fat bitch ass over here!"), dropping it all in a very unhealthy way ("You look so beautiful, aren't you going to eat anything? You're grandmother will be sad..." "I like my women with more meat on them"), and still never quite feeling I was "womanly" and "desirable" yet, thanks to conflicting views from neighbors, family, and the media. So, yeah, I feel like I have a good view from my perspective, not that you'd know everything, what with me being anonymous and all.

Seriously, my main problem was with the "fuck them all" And that sentence explaining who the "fuck them all" was directed at really was helpful. I completely agree with you on that point; I think (and I've seen this elsewhere in this FS post) that unfortunately, this whole discussion has turned into a "who is more oppressed" pissing contest, when ultimately, your reaction is probably a more accurate reading of the secret. But just as it must push your buttons to be put down for being thin or getting compared to Barbie, the implication that celebrating heavier women inherently puts down skinny women is frustrating and makes for angry comments. And that is how a lot of people are reading you and the secret. So I'll apologize for being flippant. But you know, fuck you too.

[identity profile] lunarwhirl.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, no. Thanks for the misinterpretation. I don't give a damn if people disagree - it's when they feel like they have to disagree by putting people down and throwing on their Victim Hats (and I don't care what "side" they're on; Victim Hats are annoying on anyone) that they cross the line.

Yeah. I'm half latina as well, so I totally get what you're saying (also, it shows in my own butt, which constantly gets remarked upon to the point I just wanna slap people). Even "family" members had remarked upon it, and I was harassed by my step-father as well (though nothing horrific came of it).

Yeah; I really have poor wording most of the time, and my bad temper doesn't help. D| And why can't we accept and celebrate both equally? Why do we even have to put each other down? Fuck the media; we all know they're full of shit anyway. Why can't we just act like people? And meh, I don't care.