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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-12-01 05:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #5079 ]


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Re: Writing Questions

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
A little while ago I asked for advice about writing better erotica because, frankly, I suck. No pun intended. XD

Aaaanyway, the advice I got was really helpful - thanks FS! Most people suggested studying what works in other people's work, which I have been doing.

My question now is, when you are using other people's work as inspiration then where the hell is the line for plagiarism?

At the moment I have been breaking down paragraph flows sentence by sentence, trying to mimic the flow. I'm not copying words or actual sentences, but it still feels like plagiarism. :/

None of this has been posted yet, so still all academic at this point.

Re: Writing Questions

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. I don't think I've ever "broken down" line for line whatever works I have liked -- I think what I tend to do (and thus avoid plagiarism) is tease out what exactly I liked or found alluring about what the author wrote or the way they wrote it. How do they use the words? Do i like it because they were graphic? how graphic? Or do I prefer that they went into the feelings of both characters or one? These kinds of questions. What kind of language did they use? Is more action based? Emotion based? etc.

Breaking down those components (instead of a line by line transposition) and then applying them (that is, your raw materials, the answers to those questions above, those elements you very much liked) to your own style, and adapting that to the characters and circumstances, you will have something original. In my opinion, anyway.

I've lately been reading some fic where I find I really like the smut this writer makes -- and I ask myself these questions, in order to maybe apply some of that to my own stories. Maybe. I try to consider what is hot to me, what I like, and what I would like to see. And doing it my own way. I don't want to be a copy of this author. She's fabulous. I want to like my own writing too -- influenced by it or not.

If you want to share a passage from something you like and we can work on it here, I'd be happy to show you what I mean!

In any case, good luck!

Re: Writing Questions

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
(Cozy Werewolf Anon)

copying more than 50 words preferably in a row is considered plagarism. Look up copypastecris for an example. (She managed to plagarize up to 80 authors last I knew. Like and then a year later the RWA imploded so and that was last Christmas sooo. I'm waiting on the 2020 Author scandal that's not JKR being JKR.)

copying storylines beat for beat is considered plagarism outside of following specific genre conventions. (which I can't remember the words now but look up the Omegaverse case on youtube, Lindsay Ellis did a great job of explaining.)

Using song lyrics is plagarism

If you're just going for style, and sentence structure type beats and using your own words, you should be fine. It's ripping scenes wholesale with exact descriptions (gestures at Cassie Claire) that will do it.

Re: Writing Questions

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Is this fanfic or 100% original? Trying to mimic sentence structure/flow in fanfic isn't plagiarism. Arguably, it's what you're supposed to do, and it's harder than it sounds.

It's not plagiarism in original fic either, but you do run the risk of critics saying that you sound like you've been reading too much (whatever is inspiring you).

Re: Writing Questions

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's probably not plagiarism if you don't overdo it, basically. Like, if you copy the basic beats of a scene [scary thug shows up, cunning hero defeats him by trickery, scary thug swears loyalty after being beaten and shown mercy, for example], that's fine.
However, if you write "Blazing Saddles (but all the genders are flipped and it's in space)" then yeah, that's plagiarism.