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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-12-04 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #5082 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5082 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Ah, okay, thanks.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to disagree, this time the romantic interpretation as a lot more canonic weight than the platonic one. Before Cas said that happiness was in the telling and not in the having, which was followed by him telling Dean he loved him, he said that what he really wanted he couldn't have. He already had Dean as a best friend and as family (Dean said that to him multiple times). There's not much, if any, room left for interpretation there : the only type of love that he couldn't (or thought he couldn't) get from Dean was romantic love.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
* "has" not "as", shame.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Dean has very seldom believed that he would ever get a happily ever after. Cas knows that as soon as he is truly happy he will get sent to the Empty.

Even if all Cas ever wanted was to be able to live happily ever after with his best friend and not have to worry about anyone he cared about getting killed or turning evil -- that is something that he knows he'll never have. Arguably, it is far more likely that he could get Dean to kiss him and mean it than it is that he could get Dean to stop getting himself killed every other year.

So the scene's open to interpretation.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-08 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
It's fiction, so many things are openned to interpretation, but I think you have to reach to come to the conclusion that that's what Cas meant when he said "What I can't have" followed by "I love you". And I'm very much a sceptic. While he's not the writers nor the director, Misha Collins confirmed that he played this scene as a romantic declaration.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-05 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yeah, I saw what the person below said, and it does make it seem like there was more to it. I was never into the ship, but given Jensen Ackles' (and Jared Padalecki's, but that's not necessarily relevant to the Dean/Cas situation) homophobia over the years, it wouldn't really surprise me if some stuff was cut. I saw where someone mentioned him (JA) saying there was more to the scene originally and having it filmed on his phone or whatever, which doesn't sound like he was super opposed to the idea, so maybe he's changed, but yeah...that sucks for the fans if things were originally supposed to be different and were changed, although I'm not surprised.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-28 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
No it wasn't.

We already got Castiel telling Dean he loved him in S13. He even specified Dean separately from the rest ("I love you" /drops his gaze down so he doesn't look at Dean who he was just looking at/ "I love all of you" /looks at Sam and Mary).

So Dean very decidedly knew. And the wording was "platonic" only if you're bending over backwards to explain it away.