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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-01-07 04:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #733 ]


⌈ Secret Post #733 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dan wright and Steve Marsh. Crash Test Dummies/Big Cook Little Cook.]


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[Dr. Who]


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[Watchmen Movie]


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[Merlin]


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[To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything, Julie Newmar]


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[Madhuri Dixit (Actress/dancer)]


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[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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[South of Nowhere/Matt Cohen]


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[Dave Gahan/Depeche Mode]


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[Lord of the Rings]


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[Garfield And Friends (US Acres)]


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[Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal Rising, Hannibal]


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[Watchmen]


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[James Bond/"Goldeneye, 006x007]


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[Masters of the Universe]


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[Oz]


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[Tales of the Abyss]


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[Dynasty Warriors/RoTK]


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[Amanda Palmer/Regina Spektor]


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[Frasier]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 167 secrets from Secret Submission Post #105.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 105, 110

(Anonymous) 2009-01-08 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
If you're saying the exact same things they're saying, but substituting another race and a different excuse, it doesn't make your statement any less racist than theirs is.

Clearly, to do the story justice, the Avatar movie needs to have a diverse cast. But, as the secret says, 'diverse' does NOT mean 'nobody is white.' Actually, it would make a certain amount *more* sense to have a white Fire Nation, an Asian Earth Kingdom (and Aang) and an Innuit/pale black Water Tribe; rather than insisting that "Everybody HAS to be Asian NO EXCEPTIONS!!1one!"

Re: 105, 110

[identity profile] kristenell.livejournal.com 2009-01-08 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Look if you are making a film based in England in 1800s focused on the upperclass, then you are probably only going to cast white people for those roles, why couldn't that work the other way around?

Look I am not saying that white people can't take part, but they probably shouldn't be the main roles, because the culture is not that of people who are racially white. I am sorry. Why is it so important that white people have major parts in this film?

Why in a world that is Asian based would it might be considered the most and all if possible adhere to cultural norms.

Honestly I am not asking for a diverse cast, I am asking for an ACCURATE cast, which was never going to happen but I had hoped it would have been better. I just don't know why people are so "THERE HAS TO BE WHITE PEOPLE" in it when honestly that ethnicity should be the exception as opposed to the rule in the Avatar world.
Edited 2009-01-08 01:51 (UTC)

Re: 105, 110

(Anonymous) 2009-01-08 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Nobody's saying white people have to be in the main roles, they're saying that they should be the Fire Nation. That would be a diverse AND an accurate cast, since it's relatively clear that the interpretation of the Fire Nation could go either way. You get a pridominantly Asian main cast with geniune diversity in the minor roles, the story would be richer for it and everybody wins!

"The exception and not the rule" makes perfect sense - so why can't the Fire Nation be that exception? Especially with the Water Tribe in there as an exception in the other direction (going for a non-Asian minority, I mean.)

Insisiting on an entirely Asian cast in a show where not at least two of the main characters AREN'T ASIAN but Inuit is just as bad as inisisting on an entirely white cast.

Re: 105, 110

[identity profile] kristenell.livejournal.com 2009-01-08 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, the majority of the Fire Nation doesn't look white to me, the only character of name that does is Ty Lee and that is only because of her eyes which were done for stylistic effect. ANd out of the four nations, the Fire Nation is the one most consistently steeped in Chinese culture. I don't know, but I can't buy Fire Nation, I could maybe buy a certain part of the Earth Kingdom just because it is bigger and covers more land and maybe the Air Nomads though that is suspect too. But yeah, Zuko, Mai, Azula, Ozai, Iroh, Piandao, Jeong Jeong all are Fire Nation and all do not look at all like they are white, which is why I can't buy the FN as white either.

I actually wanted Inuit or at the very least Native actors for Sokka and Katara, because well I would have liked accurate casting that took the culture of the characters into account.

My thing is that I think the majority and most likely the whole world is not white.

Re: 105, 110

(Anonymous) 2009-01-08 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Pale black? LOL, WUT.