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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-12-12 05:19 pm

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(Anonymous) 2020-12-12 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS

I'd like to add that Disney Princesses don't exactly promote a normal body image for girls either. Considering my 8 year old niece is currently being treated for anorexia, and all but one of her friends worries about being fat. At EIGHT. Yeah,I take that seriously.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-13 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Anorexia and other body image problems in young children has more to do with social media than Disney films. The number of kids who are allowed to use shit like TikTok and Instagram unsupervised, despite how serious and grotesque their thinspo and clean eating cultures are, is extremely alarming. Youtube is pretty bad too but is less Hip.

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(Anonymous) 2020-12-13 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
Absolutely this. It's not watching a movie with a thin character that makes a child want to be like that, it's the propagated response that tells them they should.

I'll go out on a limb here and say it's more likely the accusation against these films that causes the upset.
The Disney Princess' are by no uncertain terms the insectular proportions comic books that have been using since the eighties. The Disney Princess are thin, yes, but not unhealthily so.
I'd wager they're well in their healthy weight range. But by causing a fuss, making those comments, you propagate the idea the child /should/ look that way regardless of body type.

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(Anonymous) 2020-12-13 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
DA
Frozen proportions are nearly as hideous as those in One Piece. Elsa's waist is barely wider than her eye.

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(Anonymous) 2020-12-14 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Frozen is a very badly animated film. Nobody's head is that big and the style is purposefully unrealistic. You are completely right, don't get me wrong- honestly I wasn't even considering the more recent movies, just the originals.

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(Anonymous) 2020-12-13 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh...their waists are nonexistent. That's pretty fucking unhealthy. And yes it's because it's stylized cartoons, but the proportions are not in any way realistic for a human. They're basically Barbies.

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(Anonymous) 2020-12-14 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry I was only considering the earlier movies. The original films were semi-realistic to actual body shapes at the time. Corsets and girdles were as essential back then which created that 'look', which then became the default style of Disney. But even looking at Ariel, she has thin yet realistic body proportions. (though she's actually a very bad example since she's a mermaid;;) The more recent films (like how the anon above you mentioned Frozen, which I didn't consider) are very oddly styled, very purposefully disproportionate. So yes, you are completely correct to say that.

Basically most Disney princesses have the same body type (much like barbies, which I agree are very far from life) so those with a pear shape and so forth body types wouldn't be able to relate. I am going off memory, so that may influence my perspective some, but I will stick to my point that the original/early films are drawn in proportion to a natural human body shape.
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[personal profile] dantesspirit 2020-12-14 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Social media only plays a small part of this.

*Society itself* plays the bigger part. *Media of all types*, especially advertising, plays big part.

And all of that pales in comparison to the huge part *parenting* plays.

So, to say this is all the fault of social media, is disingenuous.