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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-12-13 03:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #5091 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5091 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-12-14 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I have seen creators change their minds about ships too many times to ever believe them when they say it's not happening.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-14 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Nayrt

In the early days of The X-Files the official response to whether Mulder/Scully would happen was an emphatic NO... but then it did happen (albeit years later, but it still happened). I try to remain agnostic about what creators say about these things because its not always the definitive end of an argument people act like it is.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-14 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thing is, no one is arguing that creators can't ever change their minds. We're arguing that if they tell you something is not going to happen and then it does not happen, claiming they tricked you into thinking it would happen is asinine. Most show writers are not playing the multi-dimensional chess game that rabid shippers think they are.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-14 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but this historically only happens with het ships, gay very rarely get the not being canon > going canon treatment, so I still don't get why people think it'll be any different now, and especially in these straight dude TV shows.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-14 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
Things have changed very rapidly for queer representation in the past decade. It's not close to great by any means, but it's not totally weird for fans to have thought possibly the show might go there by the time it was over.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-14 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It is weird for them to insist that they were tricked into thinking it would go there when they were flat out told by everyone involved that it wouldn’t. It’s even weirder to assume there was some kind of mass conspiracy to deny their ship.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-14 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
But not to the point where fanon gay goes canon, I have still yet to see that happen ever, so yes it is weird for me to see people claiming that a pair of dudes clearly written as bros have some ~secret hidden coding that tells us they'll be canon.

We're getting more LGBT rep in shows overall, but not surprise LGBT ships like fandom keeps insisting will happen every time a group of shippers goes nuts like this.