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⌈ Secret Post #5092 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I have a hard time seeing Malfoy as Harry's bully, even though he definitely engaged in bullying behaviors. He never seemed to have any power over Harry and came off as an annoying pest for most of the series. He was more of a bully toward Ron and particularly Hermione.

[(Anonymous)]

No, I agree, I just find that point irrelevant. I don't care who he bullied. He was a bully. I'm not interested in seeing that swept under the rug and excused. I'd say the exact same thing if I shipped Dramione, or basically anybody else who was a good person in canon with Draco.

I'm not interested in seeing him made out to be "the real victim here" for any reason. Even if that reason isn't a ship, I'm still not here for it. I'm super here for seeing his character redeemed--just not by going, "He was never the REAL problem, and really he was just a helpless sad boi, and the golden trio was kind of insufferably self-righteous sometimes so who could blame him for being malicious to them for years?"

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it's a distinction I'd like people to make if people are gonna write Drarry fics, just so that I don't have to see the dynamics portrayed as bully/former victim. But admittedly, this is because I don't care that much about Draco and am much more invested in Harry's side of things, so I just want to get the facts straight. Malfoy never mattered that much to Harry unless he was attacking one of his friends, until the point in the story when he actively became a potential threat.

[(Anonymous)]

It's just not a distinction that's relevant to me in this particular conversation, which is about bullies and how they are handled in fiction, particularly wrt redemption.

Draco is a bully, there's no questioning that. Often I see his behavior summarily absolved or reframed entirely, which is not a form of character redemption I vibe with. Which was where the conversation began: ways of handling character redemption and whether we vibe with them.

I think you might be having a different conversation than the one I'm having. I'm not totally sure.