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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-12-21 05:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #5099 ]


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(Anonymous) 2020-12-22 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
So to just transport those over is ridiculous and a little pathetic and tacky. Especially in fantasy.

You have no knowledge that's what the genre is doing. You just leaped to that conclusion. "This genre would be bad if it was done in a bad way, so it sounds like a pretty bad genre to me." What kind of sense does that make?

Now for me, decent scifi extrapolates from where we are to where we're going to be. Maybe some actual African authors do that but I can't see how that can be anything other than unrealistic or depressing as fuck.

This seems like it's wrong in three different ways. First, it's an unimaginative definition of science fiction - science fiction can be many different things. One kind of science fiction is extrapolative. But many other kinds can exist. Second, it's a failure of imagination - simply because you can't see a realistic course for optimistic extrapolative African science fiction, you assume no such course exists. Third, it's... not really a critique! Even if what you say is true, the fact that it's depressing doesn't make it bad! It just means it's not to your taste! And it definitely doesn't make it tacky, or pathetic, which is what you called it.

If we're talking about American authors, I can only imagine how much cultural appropriation and ignorance is going into these fucking things. Black Americans seem to think that being black grants them the cultural rights to any culture that has come from people who aren't white. It's a form of imperialism, ironically enough.

I agree that the problems you point to exist.

I don't think saying, as a blanket statement, that every American author necessarily is an imperialist, or every single Black American author does these things, makes sense. Particularly, it seems like you're just ignoring the existence of recent African immigration in America.

And finally, it just seems like none of the points you made really justify coming in - again, with no knowledge of the genre - and saying you don't understand why anyone would read it because it sounds imperialist, pathetic, and tacky to you.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-22 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Nowhere have I claimed this is anything other than my opinion. (Shrugs) All i've done is elaborate on why that is my opinion. Idgaf to be honest whether people agree or not.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-22 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Well, your opinion is incoherent and ill-informed

(Anonymous) 2020-12-22 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Lmfao yeah sure whatever buddy.