[ SECRET POST #5099 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5099 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Regional pronunciations are accents, are they not?

[(Anonymous)]

No? They're just different (sometimes wrong) ways of pronouncing things.

[(Anonymous)]

When is the pronunciation wrong? How do you determine the times where a certain accent's pronunciation of a word is incorrect, as opposed to just a regional difference?

[(Anonymous)]

def. Accent from dictionary.com:

a mode of pronunciation, as pitch or tone, emphasis pattern, or intonation, characteristic of or peculiar to the speech of a particular person, group, or locality: French accent; Southern accent.

So... a different way of pronouncing things is... an accent!

[(Anonymous)]

Wrong. Different pronunciations of some words from a "standard" is one of the main characteristics of a regional accent or dialect.

That's how you can tell the difference between a Brit and an American when they talk. They pronounce lots of words differently. National differences are just big versions of regional differences.

If you go around "correcting" people's pronunciation in communities where that's the norm, you're going to come off as a giant asshole.

[(Anonymous)]

"Sh"edule vs. "sk"edule is a difference in accent.

"Liberry" is just a mispronunciation.

There are standard variants and then there are non-standard ones that would not be considered acceptable for a particular character. You're actually proving the point here - in the community where the characters the OP is talking about would be living and working, an uneducated-sounding mispronunciation would NOT be the norm. And people who don't talk "appropriately" are corrected or eventually excluded from that community all the time. Not saying that's "right", but it is certainly true.

[(Anonymous)]

THIS fgs. Trying to go all "you are a snob" on OP is just PP's own inverted snobbery showing. LibRary. Not hard.

[(Anonymous)]

It's certainly true that saying "liberry" could be out of character for many characters

It's also true that the difference between "standard variants" and "non-standard variants" is extremely vexed, and at best, very specific to a given context. There is no *normative* sense in which one variant is correct and another is incorrect.

[(Anonymous)]

Definition #2 of nonstandard: not conforming in pronunciation, grammatical construction, idiom, or word choice to the usage generally characteristic of educated native speakers of a language

Definition(s) of normative:
1: of, relating to, or determining norms or standards
2: conforming to or based on norms
3: prescribing (see PRESCRIBE sense 1) norms, as in normative grammar

Your point again?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm from a region where many people pronounce it as "berry". It's STILL recognized as being wrong there, even by the people who say it.