case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-01-05 04:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #5114 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5114 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.



__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________


03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 24 secrets from Secret Submission Post #732.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2021-01-06 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Seeing as they used a racist slur, I think their point is they're just a moron.

(Anonymous) 2021-01-06 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
You're the kind of person who thinks goy is a slur, aren't you.

(Anonymous) 2021-01-06 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Never heard the word goy before, no idea what it means. Pretty sure they didn't mean cracker in any way than pejoratively, and as it's, well, a racial slur by definition, it seems pretty QED.

(Anonymous) 2021-01-06 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I feel like saying that something is true "by defintion" is often not a very good argument, since definitions are basically arbitrary and conventional.

In this case, it is literally true that "cracker" is an insult based on racial identity, so in that sense, it is literally correct to say that "cracker" is a racial slur. But talking about racial slurs brings to mind a lot of weight and baggage that is not included in the literal definition of a racial slur. We have certain moral and political judgments that we associate with the term racial slur, stemming ultimately from the fact that racial slurs are used as linguistic tools to entrench and police racial boundaries in society and systems of prejudice and oppression. Those kinds of judgments are essential to the argument that's being made - "The anon who said 'cracker' is using a racial slur; people who use racial slurs are morons; therefore, anon is a moron."

But those moral and societal judgments don't actually necessarily apply in the case of "cracker", because even though it is literally a racial slur, it is not used to entrench or police systems of racial prejudice and oppression in the same way as other racial slurs. (I guess you could make the argument that "cracker" as a phrase for specifically poor whites is classist, but that's clearly not the argument at hand here). So in fact, even though it's literally true that "cracker" is a racial slur, the implied argument doesn't really make sense.

(Of course, that doesn't mean that the anon who originally said "cracker" is right, either. They're just wrong for other reasons - if they're saying that Missouri is uniquely racist because of Ferguson, they've apparently forgotten about good ol' liberal Minneapolis and George Floyd)

(Anonymous) 2021-01-06 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
'In this case, it is literally true that "cracker" is an insult based on racial identity, so in that sense, it is literally correct to say that "cracker" is a racial slur. '

Stopped reading here because you proved my point for me. It cuts two ways.