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I think people just love shitting on Neil Gaiman. I met him once and he seemed like a lovely guy, very kind & genuine. I'm sure I wouldn't fare much better than him under decades of public scrutiny, & most of the people upthread probably wouldn't either.

But, as they say, haters gonna hate.

His pretentious and his writing is shit. Two valid reasons not to like him.

And yet, we're dedicating a whole thread to blowing a comment about quarters out of proportion. Seems lazy, if there are so many legitimate complaints.

DA - All I see here is some belligerent loudmouth (that's you) stating their opinions like facts. Which is giving me reasons not to like you, but tells me basically nothing about NG.

AYRT I quantify my opinions with 'two valid reasons to hate him' - thus making it clear they are my opinions. It's people like you who make him even more hateable. Never could stand rabid fan culture.

His writing is clearly not shit if the context of the complaint is that he's made several millions from it.

Michael Crichton's made millions from his writing, too. Dan Brown has made millions from his writing.

I think they're both extremely good at what they do, anon. May not be your cuppa but as published writers those people are at the top of the game.

That's just pedantic.

Or maybe "his writing is shit" is a subjective statement that can't be quantified? Who's to say.

Of course it's a subjective statement. It's obviously a subjective statement. So much so that, when someone says "Neil Gaiman's writing is shit", it should be understood by all reasonable people that they're sharing a subjective opinion.

Haha, but is that what you think you are? A reasonable person?

I think any reasonable person would aspire to be as "shitty" a writer as Harvard-educated, worldwide bestselling Michael Crichton with his fingers in some of the most popular and celebrated media properties in existence, but we obviously disagree on that.

NAYRT If I worked my ass off and was able to write as well as Michael Crichton as a result I would be pleased. If I ended up being able to write like NG then I would be disappointed, as his writing is everything I despise about geek culture. Not from a technically proficient pov, but in terms of everything else.

If I could write as well as Terry Pratchett, now that is the dream.

da-

i tried picking up american gods and it was exactly the kind of self absorbed dude bullshit i hate. i was baffled that it's popular with people i admire. maybe it gets good after chapter 5 but i'll never know because i got tired reading about nipples

AYRT

'self absorbed dude bullshit' is the perfect description of his writing and exactly why I hate it.

It's hugely unfair to Michael Crichton to put him in the same bracket as Dan Brown, IMO (whose books really are badly-written trash, although well done him for identifying a lucrative and appealing subject area, I guess).

Did I say you couldn't dislike him, or at least dislike his writing?

I was just commenting on all the bad faith arguments, as in the OP's. Like there's always a group of people who want to interpret everything he says in the worst possible way & I think it's kinda pathetic.

(I know this happens with a lot of famous and famous-ish people online.. I think that's pathetic too, for the record)

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