[ SECRET POST #5116 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5116 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, they deserved it.

Just get a beta.

Also, it's worth noting that the language used here implies that they write horrible OOC fic that every beta they've ever dealt with has told them is horrible OOC fic but their ~vision~ is perfect to them so they just ... don't use one.

And sure, whatever. People can write bad fic all they like. They can use awful storylines, really horrendous characterisation and that's not a crime. But if somebody is so dead-set on using an atypical portrayal of characters to the point where past betas have commented it doesn't say a lot for their skill with writing in general.

Here's the thing.

It's entirely possible to use a Beta who doesn't comment on undoubtedly bad characterisation or a crappy storyline that is at odds with the source material.

Use somebody who isn't familiar with your fandom. That way, they can deal with spelling, grammar and sentence structure and remain blissfully ignorant of bad character portrayals, thus allowing an authors dodgy vision to remain uncriticised.

The difficulty here is that you're unlikely to get an impartial reader in a fandom, but ... good grief.

It sounds like they wanted an excuse to ban them. If their work was up to par, either grammatically or in-character wise, they'd probably have coasted despite the rule. No community is going to ban a good writer for not having a beta, especially if they can edit their fic to a good standard without one.

Apparently OP couldn't.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with a lot of this. Sometimes, my SO and I beta each other's fics, but we tell each other beforehand what we're looking for: Just spelling/grammar, help with a plot point, or whatever they want to question or change. But we start very clear about what we want if we beta for each other. I'm sure the same can be done with other betas.

I once betaed for a fandom acquaintance. who was ESL. I mostly cleaned up grammar, but then made a suggestion that changed her whole story idea. I felt terrible! She said she didn't mind, but it seemed like one little plot inconsistency threw off her whole story. She never asked for that and didn't seem to mind the new direction her story took, but I stopped betaing for anyone but my SO after that.

[(Anonymous)]

Hell, they don't even need to get a beta. They just need to stop joining communities and events that require them to use a beta. They can continue posting their unbetaed garbage to their heart's content elsewhere.