[ SECRET POST #5128 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5128 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

"Male protagonist falls for female client and/or criminal, possibly bangs her, does stupid shit he knows he shouldn't for her case, and it all ends badly" is like...the noir plot, in the same way as "female character falls for jackass supernatural dude, pretends not to for half the book, and then they bang" is the urban fantasy plot.

They're both romance. They're both very formulaic. Noir is the last genre someone should be going for if their mentality is "ew, romance".

[meadowphoenix]

technically unless there's a happy ending it's not considered romance, so a lot of noir isn't romance as such.

[(Anonymous)]

...That's a common house requirement of specifically genre romance publishers. It is not actually a requirement of romantic plots.

[meadowphoenix]

It's not just house publishers, it's very much apart of the romance author oeuvre, and the romantic focus OP of the secret is talking about really happens with romance in urban fantasy, as described with a happy ending, and not noir (that's what the "as such" part of "romance as such" was describing).

[(Anonymous)]

You are seriously making this argument when the OP is blaming Anne Rice for the romantic nature of Urban Fantasy? Bold move.

[meadowphoenix]

Yes, considering Anne Rice's most well-known works are not in the urban fantasy vein (I guess the latter lestat series could be urban fantasy) and I don't see how they are noir. She's clearly not what the question of noir v. romance tropes is talking about.

[(Anonymous)]

You really gonna die on this pedantic-ass hill? Really?

[meadowphoenix]

Ah yes, the sacrificial bravery of two responses! Thank you for recognizing my pedantic service.

[(Anonymous)]

Absolutely. But it's romance designed to appeal to men, so it's accepted and respected, of course.

I'm not offended by much, but this secret is the most annoyed I've been for a while, lol. And I'm not even that invested in romance. But the condescension and contempt oozing from OP's words are utterly revolting.