fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #742 ]

⌈ Secret Post #742 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Yuko Nakazawa]

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[Ianto Jones, Torchwood]

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[Jpopmusic.com forums, Morning Musume section]

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[Boston Legal; Denny Crane]

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[Trevor Moore, Whitest Kids U Know]

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108.

[Yes! Precure 5]

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[Harry Potter/Tom Riddle]

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[Billy Mayes infomercials]

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[Pokémon]

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[Super Mario Bros (live-action movie)]

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[Sakura Card Captor/Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle]

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[DBSK - Shim Changmin]

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[NaruHina and IchiHime]

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[Left 4 Dead]

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[Never Mind the Buzzcocks]

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[Spongebob Squarepants]

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[Supernatural]

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[Legend of the Seeker]

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[Digimon Adventure 02]

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[Metal Gear Solid]

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[Morena Baccarin]

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[Heroes]

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[Digimon Adventure 02]

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[Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits]

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140. http://i39.tinypic.com/2yucavo.jpg
[ only linked, just in case :| ]

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[Vincent Vega - Pulp Fiction]

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[Avatar]

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[NCIS/Abby Sciuto]

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[Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Fallout 3]

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[The Zeta Project]

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[Professor Layton]

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[NCIS]

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[House]

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[Monty Python's Flying Circus, Eric Idle]

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[Reservoir Dogs/The Piano]

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[Supernatural, Misha Collins]

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[The Curious Case of Benjamin Button]

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[Gilmore Girls/Supernatural/Heroes]

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[Brainiac Joe - Brainiac Science Abuse]

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[John Constantine: Hellblazer]

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[Doctor Who; Thandie Newton]

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[Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro]

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[Metal Gear Solid]

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[Mike Rowe and Dave Barsky]

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[Catherine Tate, Doctor Who]

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[Ghost in the Shell]

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[House]

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[Ice Age I & II]

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I don't think we're supposed to excuse Zuko's behaviour, and I don't think that Mai's problems are baseless. The thing is, I think that it's... not excuseable exactly, but really and incredibly understandable why he did what he did. I think the process he went through was very realistic, and I just hate it when fandom degrades him and says "well, he was so emo but then he got over it." It's like, no, he didn't get over being emo, he emancipated himself. I wanted to punch his face in a few times in the meanwhile, but he did it and I'm just sick to death of people treating him like he was just being a moody teenager - same as with Mai.

I don't put him so far above the other characters. I'm just hyper protective of him because I think that it's a disservice to boil him down to "lol emo woobie" and the fandom does it so often, so that was my knee-jerk reaction to you. He's not my favourite on the show, but I'm so tired of people rolling their eyes and going "emo" or else rushing in to woobify something they haven't even bothered to understand.

I don't know. Zuko wasn't supposed to make good decisions all the way through. You were supposed to hate him when he turned on Iroh. It just seems to sort of.. miss the point a little to try to "hold him accountable," so to speak, for shitty decisions that he's obviously trying to make up for. With the exception of Sokka, I think the whole cast has made bad decisions. Iroh led the siege on Ba Sing Se for Christ's sake, he was MORE complicit in the war than Zuko ever was, and I doubt I'll ever hear him get flak for that.

But that was the point of my initial post.

The commenter went out of their way to bash Aang and Mai with traits that aren't there and even insinuated that they were in no way shape or form better in some ways than Zuko and Katara.

And to me that mentality just smacks of the double standard that usually prevails when it comes to this fandom and Zuko, especially from Zutara supporters who I feel don't get the characters at all.

I was being sarcastic with my initial post. I don't like it when the fans dismiss Zuko as being "emo" or when they immediately woobify him. And that is one reason why I love him with Mai. She didn't woobify him. She wasn't out to heal his tortured soul. But she did love him, she did care for him and he reigned first in her heart, and she accepted him for who he was - flaws and all.

That was the message of all the canon ships - unconditional love looks past age, sex, status, background, etc.

Oh no, I think Iroh deserves grief for the war involvement. Which is why I liked Aang's decision not to kill Ozai. Because where to you draw the line at punishing people? If he had killed Ozai then by right he should have gone after Azula, the generals, the war ministers, Iroh, and even Zuko for the atrocities they committed on innocent civilians.

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