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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-01-16 05:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #742 ]


⌈ Secret Post #742 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.


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102.
[Yuko Nakazawa]


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103.
[Ianto Jones, Torchwood]


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104.


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105.
[Jpopmusic.com forums, Morning Musume section]


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106.
[Boston Legal; Denny Crane]


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107.
[Trevor Moore, Whitest Kids U Know]


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108.
[Yes! Precure 5]


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109.
[Harry Potter/Tom Riddle]


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110.
[Billy Mayes infomercials]


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111.
[Pokémon]


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112.
[Super Mario Bros (live-action movie)]


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113.
[Sakura Card Captor/Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle]


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114.
[DBSK - Shim Changmin]


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115.
[NaruHina and IchiHime]


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116.


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117.


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118.


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119.
[Left 4 Dead]


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120.
[Never Mind the Buzzcocks]


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121.
[Spongebob Squarepants]


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122.
[Supernatural]


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123.
[Legend of the Seeker]


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124.
[Digimon Adventure 02]


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125.
[Metal Gear Solid]


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126.


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127.


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128.


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129.


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130.
[Morena Baccarin]


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131.
[Heroes]


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132.


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133.


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134.
[Digimon Adventure 02]


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135.


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136.


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137.


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138.


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139.
[Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits]


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140. http://i39.tinypic.com/2yucavo.jpg
[ only linked, just in case :| ]


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143.
[Vincent Vega - Pulp Fiction]


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144.


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145.
[Avatar]


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146.
[NCIS/Abby Sciuto]


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147.


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148.
[Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Fallout 3]


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149.


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150.
[The Zeta Project]


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151.
[Professor Layton]


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152.


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153.
[NCIS]


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154.
[House]


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155.
[Monty Python's Flying Circus, Eric Idle]


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156.
[Reservoir Dogs/The Piano]


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159.


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160.


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162.
[Supernatural, Misha Collins]


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163.


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164.


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165.
[The Curious Case of Benjamin Button]


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166.


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167.
[Gilmore Girls/Supernatural/Heroes]


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169.


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170.
[Brainiac Joe - Brainiac Science Abuse]


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171.
[John Constantine: Hellblazer]


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172.
[Doctor Who; Thandie Newton]


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173.
[Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro]


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174.


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175.
[Metal Gear Solid]


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176.
[Mike Rowe and Dave Barsky]


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177.


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178. [repeat]


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179.


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180.


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181.
[Catherine Tate, Doctor Who]


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182.


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183.
[Ghost in the Shell]


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184.
[House]


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185.
[Ice Age I & II]



Notes:

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ext_6866: (Sigh.  Monet.)

Re: 145

[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
It seems like people are pretty against bashing both Aang and Mai in this thread--I know I am. I think all four of them make a lot of sense in what they do and why. Katara I think really is confused about her feelings for Aang, and Aang's just a boy who likes her and says so and can't understand what's going on in her head. His trying to kiss her was the wrong move and freaked her out but I didn't think either of their reactions showed anything bad about them. They're all people who suffered through truly bad things, sometimes that leads them to act badly, but ultimately they choose to help a lot of people. And often the thing they choose to do is the hardest thing *for them.* Mai developed her attitude to copy with her family, and then she has to declare her love for somebody. Aang doesn't like the pressure of being the Avatar, and he has to defeat the Fire Lord. Zuko wants to prove himself a good Fire Lord and a good son and he has to break with his father and side against him.

Re: 145

(Anonymous) 2009-01-18 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I am a bit protective of Aang. He is a great character who because he had the misfortune of falling for Katara and her falling for him, gets a lot of garbage heaped on him. He is not the way the commenter suggested he is and I've always found Aang to be one of the best things about Avatar.

I do not deny Zuko's journey and his goodness. Nor do I think that what he achieved and gained wasn't hard-earned and deserved, but their is a double standard when it comes to the fandom and Zuko and that is even more noticeable where Zutarians are concerned.

I just have always found it quite sad in this fandom that for someone to actually like Aang better than Zuko basically is a crime. Or to think that Aang is a better character is a crime. And the fact that this attitude is not only accepted but encouraged is part of why I have pulled away from a lot of the fandom.
ext_6866: (I'm listening.)

Re: 145

[identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
You won't get any argument from me there that it's ridiculous to think it's wrong to like Aang better than Zuko--I've come across plenty of people who don't particularly like Zuko as a character or who like Aang better. Some people just find Zuko annoying until he redeems himself. There are also people who found his story more interesting but would say Aang was a better person. I'm glad I haven't had to listen to the people you've come across who hold that double standard--but I totally believe they exist. (Hell, I know there are people who argue that Aang just hasn't suffered anything--Aang whose entire race was wiped out.)

I also agree that he is in no way the way he was described in the post above--there's nothing selfish about his loving Katara or not killing Ozai. He felt like killing Ozai was wrong so explored other options even when everybody else was sure that was the only way. It was, imo, a wonderful way to honor the Air Bender culture who were wiped out. Aang didn't have to give up who he was or reject the values of his lost culture.

And the weird thing about putting him down in favor of Zuko is the whole show is about how great it is that they become friends--which mostly happens because Aang, like Iroh, is a really loving person. Which has a huge effect on Zuko--that's why he brings up Aang saying he thought they could be friends when he tries to join the gAang. Zuko has no interest in Katara romantically--and frankly if he did have any sort of interest he probably would have dismissed it because he was Aang's friend and he thinks Aang is awesome. Zuko seems to see himself as a tremendously asshole a lot of the time--he's embarassed for himself. In the end no matter what he's suffered that's what's worst about him--as I think gets said outright in The Beach! There's a reason he's matched with two people who are very forgiving--he's known for hurting most some of the people who love him most!