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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-02-14 02:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #5154 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5154 ⌋

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type_wild: (Tea - Masako)

[personal profile] type_wild 2021-02-14 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, word. Madoka Magica is a perfectly fine anime, but if it is supposed to be some kind of meaningful commentary on the magical girl genre, then it misses whatever target it was aiming for with a mile.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-14 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a misogynistic dumpster fire about how girls don't REALLY know what they want and their suffering is brought on themselves and hoping against the cold, hard world is ultimately futile, and love between two girls is inherently toxic.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-15 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. I've seen madoka magica and liked it well enough, but I don't remember that much. That said, I haven't watched any other magical girl shows, could you explain what is wrong with it?

OP

(Anonymous) 2021-02-15 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
"In order to write a perfect ending for a story you must possess the power to break the chain of cause and effect, invert black and white, and act in complete contradiction to the rules of the universe. Only a heavenly and chaste soul, a soul that resounds with genuine praise for humanity, can save the story; to write a story with a happy ending is a double challenge, to the author's body as well as the mind."--Gen Urobuchi

And then Madoka DID break the chain of cause and effect and contradict the rules of the universe. So no, Madoka Magica isn't what I was thinking of at all.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-15 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
This sure is a bad faith take.
epicurean: (blond bimbo girl in a fantasy world)

[personal profile] epicurean 2021-02-15 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it was meant to be a deconstruction as much as a dark magical show, but people just love to throw that word in to make the series look deeper than it is.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-15 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't trying to be a deconstruction (that's word of God) but I don't think the OP is really talking about things like Madoka. I love classic magical girl anime and I love Madoka, and I never thought Urobuchi was being a dick to people like me who like happy cute magical girls. It's also a common strawman that Madoka fans are dumb because they think PMMM "shows what being a magical girl would really be like," but no fan I've met has ever said that's why they like it or that it's more realistic than happy magical girl anime.

I do think that if magical girls really existed, most of them would be miserable because they'd have even more responsibilities and less free time than already overburdened normal kids, and Mami talking about having that problem even before the cosmic horror kicked in is where PMMM probably got closest to a deconstruction.