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[ SECRET POST #745 ]
⌈ Secret Post #745 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 15 pages, 357 secrets from Secret Submission Post #107.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 (is ironic) 7 8 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - doing it wrong ], [ 1 - link to a random site ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: 103, 116, 118, 129, 131, 138, 154, 161, 166
(Anonymous) 2009-01-20 04:46 am (UTC)(link)In the grand scheme of world history, almost everything is insignificant. However, slavery has definitely hugely effected American society, in many different ways. I don't think that it's possible to understand this country unless you understand what slavery was, how it worked, and what the ultimate consequences of it were.
And not just because of its impact on black people (though that's vitally important). But the entire economy of the South was, at one point, more or less dependent upon slave labor. And our country would, culturally speaking, be very different if a bunch of Europeans hadn't gone off and kidnapped a bunch of Africans.
That's because he's a prominant part of our culture, NOT just because of slavery, but because he was a good man and a good leader whose death greatly impacted our history.
If you asked all those five year olds who President Lincoln was, they'd say that he was the man who freed the slaves. He's famous for the Emancipation Proclamation and for presiding over the Civil War (which was about slavery). The fact that he died had nothing to do with it. Several presidents died in office, a few of them were even assassinated. Ever heard of James Garfield? William McKinley?
How many of those events have ever been used to justify why it's okay for modern race-based street gangs to hate each other?
Oh Jesus Christ. So, when you think of black people, the only thing you can think of is street gangs? In your mind black people = evil street gangs. You're truly an awful person.
A Confederate flag has been unfairly labeled as a symbol of oppression by people who think the Civil War "boiled down to slavery"
The Civil War was about slavery. Period. I don't care what your racist, apologist history teachers taught you. Your ancestors fought to enslave mine.
It's a symbol of pride in a culture that was almost destroyed during reconstruction
So history is important, as long as its yours? Why should this symbol of pride matter, since it's just another link in an eternal chain?
As long as it doesn't surpress your neighbor's. There's a big difference between taking pride in the struggles of your ancestors and using it as a justification for censorship or hatred.
Who's asking for censorship? You can babble on about how much you love the South, as far as I'm concerned. But you're saying that I can never, ever discuss slavery because it's unfair to you. You're the one asking for censorship here, not me.
All I meant was that it should be treated like all of the rest of history, because that's what it is. It's not super-special.
Look, how do you think people are treating slavery? Because while I do hear it discussed, it's usually in the same way that history is usually discussed. It's more relevant than some subjects, but that's because it had such a huge impact on American society. I don't see how we're treating slavery as thought it were "super-special".
But waving it around like a 'get out of jail free card' or a justification for the kind of hatred and (two-way) discrimination that I've seen
I have no idea what you're talking about. At least I hope that I don't...
I'm sick of being told I should feel guilty when my family never, ever, ever owned slaves.
Do you want a gold star, or something? Personally, I don't care if you feel guilty. When I'm talking about African American history, I'm talking about the history of African Americans. White people are not always the center of the universe. Maybe the next time you see people talking about slavery, you should listen for a minute before making it all about you.
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