[ SECRET POST #746 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #746 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[ihrayne.livejournal.com]

164. I'm genuinely curious as to why? I don't know anything about it (though i did see the movie, which is why I'm curious), and you're the first person I've seen that has this opinion.

[joereaves.livejournal.com]

There are two main issues that people seem irritated at (I haven't seen the film so I'm going by what I've heard). They seem to have downplayed a lot of the interaction with Polish partisans and civilians (although I notice the poster doesn't mention Poles at all so I wonder how much of the history they actually know). and there's a massacre that may or may not have involved the group (there's an ongoing investigation which hasn't reported yet and as yet there's no firm evidence they were involved).

(The wiki article on the film outlines a few things)

Gee a film that isn't 100% historically accurate, OMG you don't say? All historical films simplify some things and remove others to make a better story and so they're not ten hours long. That's why they're advertised as 'based on a true story' and not as being factual. If you (the OP not you) want something that's completely accurate, go buy a documentary. They stayed reasonable close to the flavour of the book they based it on and a lot closer to truth than a lot of other historical films manage. Assuming anyone can say what the 'truth' actually is, I'm sure like any other story that happens in wartime there are several versions of the truth.

I only really get irritated when they make claims about how wonderfully accurate they are when they're anything but (Mel Gibson I'm looking at you).

[barkinmad.livejournal.com]

To be honest, I think it was a smart choice to keep the massacre out, because even though there's a chance that they did participate, there's also a chance that they didn't and it would be worse to blame them for something they may not have done. There were going to be people angry at them either way.

[joereaves.livejournal.com]

Oh I agree - innocent til proven guilty.

And putting aside any ethical considerations they'd be making a guess whether they'd put it in or not. But that's what you have to do when writing or filming historical fiction. Because it's fine to have theories in a history book or a documentary but if you're telling a story you have to pick one.

[ihrayne.livejournal.com]

Ah, I see. There wasn't a lot of interaction with the citizens in the movie (other than raiding and random killing), so it wasn't explained how exactly they got a lot of their supplies. I can understand getting irritated over that.

Still, I think the OP was WAY overreacting. That's taking a movie (and there have been worse, ie Pearl Harbor) way too seriously. I'm a huge history dork myself, but I don't usually get that angry if something isn't to the letter! Sure, I'd be one of the ones who could stand a historically accurate 10 hour movie, but that's RARE.

Yeesh, the OP should stick to nonfiction books. Stay away from Hollywood! haha

[joereaves.livejournal.com]

Sure, I'd be one of the ones who could stand a historically accurate 10 hour movie, but that's RARE.

Yes I probably could too but it wouldn't make any money lol.

I don't mind them changing some things to make a better movie as long as they stay true roughly to the spirit of the original history. I get mildly irritated at things like U571 where they change it not to make a better movie but I can only assume because they think Americans would rather see the US troops doing something than the British. I get highly irritated when they take the names and locations and sod all else lol (Braveheart) but if they'd just put a disclaimer saying that it's not meant to be accurate I could accept that too(as a fantasy type film Braveheart's pretty damn good). If I want historical fact, I watch a documentary.

[ihrayne.livejournal.com]

I love historical fiction, so when I go see most of the "based on a true story" movies, I just take them as that. :D That's all they typically are, anyway! A whole lot of fiction with a little bit of fact thrown in to make it semi believable.

Documentaries are definitely the way to go for facts, not hollywood!

[joereaves.livejournal.com]

I have sympathy with the writers anyway, on the massacre issue. I'm writing a historical novel and it has a section dealing with Stonehenge. If I was writing an essay I could lay out the various theories and discuss their pros and cons, since my character was actually there at the time though I have to pick one and present it as 'fact', because he was there he knows what happened lol.It's the same with the massacre - they could discuss the evidence but since they're portraying the events they have to either decide if their characters were involved or not. You can't sit on the fence.