[ SECRET POST #5194 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5194 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm confused

OP seems to interpret the quote as saying that Page would be uncomfortable performing in female roles as an actor. Like OP's point seems to be, why would Page feel more uncomfortable playing a female role as opposed to playing a dragon, or whatever.

But it seems to me that Page is saying that he felt uncomfortable playing the part of, and being perceived as, a woman in everyday life, in his own person and in public perception of him as a person. And that seems like a totally different thing than what OP is talking about - it's quite different to have people perceive you a certain way in an acting role compared to perceiving you that way in real life. Even an actor doesn't necessarily want to be playing a role all the time.

Idk maybe I'm missing something but I feel like OP's point doesn't add up for me

[akacat]

Yeah. I’m wondering if Elliot was talking about publicity appearances and such?

Though even if it’s not, it might be very different for a newly out/transitioned trans man to play a female character, than for an AMAB guy who knows people default to seeing him as a man.

[(Anonymous)]

(I am under the trans umbrella, and I acted for a few years as a teenager, in school plays and shit, before I realized.)

Being transgender and closeted is somewhat like acting, and it's a role you hate, and your survival can depend on not letting the mask slip.

I'm not going to blame him if playing a woman hits him in the dysphoria buttons. I would expect that it takes time and therapy to be okay doing that, if ever.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I'm not trans, but even if Page was uncomfortable with female roles that makes complete sense? Even if you're an actor, if you have gender dysphoria that could clearly be a source of discomfort.

[(Anonymous)]

I looked up the quote for context:

"By the time he appeared in blockbusters like X-Men: The Last Stand and Inception, Page was suffering from depression, anxiety and panic attacks. He didn’t know, he says, “how to explain to people that even though [I was] an actor, just putting on a T-shirt cut for a woman would make me so unwell.” Shawkat recalls Page’s struggles with clothes. “I’d be like, ‘Hey, look at all these nice outfits you’re getting,’ and he would say, ‘It’s not me. It feels like a costume,’” she says. Page tried to convince himself that he was fine, that someone who was fortunate enough to have made it shouldn’t have complaints. But he felt exhausted by the work required to “just exist,” and thought more than once about quitting acting."

So, it was a time in his life when he wasn't getting treatment or support for gender dysphoria. And in my own experience as a transfeminine person who passes masc professionally, that's entirely reasonable. Passing masc to keep my career alive and to minimize my risk of harassment was very stressful when I was doing it 24/7 without any support for the dysphoria I was experiencing. It's a bit better now that it's only 9-5.

[(Anonymous)]

he seems to be saying "people get confused over why it was difficult for me to wear even simple women's clothing in my everyday life despite that i am an actor"

which makes perfect sense, you can be okay with doing something as part of acting but not as part of your everyday life, obviously

[(Anonymous)]

And even if he was also talking about playing a woman in a role, at the time it probably was hard for him not to see it has a reminder that he had to also pretend to be a woman out of the set. I also think that for actors/actresses in the closet, playing the roles of their assumed gender/sexual and/or romantic orientations even on screen/on the stage could be harder, on a personal level not on an acting one, than other types of role. Again, because it's an echo of what they "have to" do in their real life.