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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-03-26 05:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #5194 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5194 ⌋

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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2021-03-27 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of (historical) acknowledged bastards still got a title and a cushy life. One of Henry VIII's illegitimate sons springs to mind. So, depending, they weren't always kicked out and shunned. I'm not saying I believe this stuff about Harry's "real" father either but royal history is nothing but full of hypocrisy.

(See also: deciding to change the succession depending on change of circumstance such as you just forced the last guy to abdicate/killed him in battle or because the guy in line to the throne practices a religion you just barred. That whole chosen by God thing is very historically flexible.)

(Anonymous) 2021-03-27 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Don't get me started on Henry VIII and the fact that most of the Protestant/Catholic shit that happened was all because he wanted a goddamn divorce.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2021-03-27 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Even worse than that, the tl;dr is he needed a divorce but also more money to fill his war chest and the church was easy pickings (not saying the church hoarding was a good thing either btw!)

(Anonymous) 2021-03-27 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
He didn't want a divorce, he wanted an annulment.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-27 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
+ 1

(Anonymous) 2021-03-27 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I didn't say he'd be kicked out and shunned. Just... not be made king. There's a lot of room between "not being king" and "booted out of the royal family forever", as you've noted. Henry VIII might not be the best example because while he did elevate his bastard son and it's said he was thinking about making him heir, it's very unlikely Henry would've done so if he'd had a legitimate son.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2021-03-27 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes totally. Henry VIII is a certified bastard (in the other sense of the word) and once Edward existed nobody else was getting a look-in. I know Edward died young so didn't rule very long, but obviously Henry didn't know that would happen so wasn't particularly bothered about the two daughters waiting behind Edward! Not to mention those two got taken out of the succession and then put back in as well. Henry VIII alone is an interesting example of royalty bending the rules to suit themselves.

I actually think the modern royals would be less forgiving of someone who wasn't legitimate. I guess because they're scrutinised more and it's easier for us ordinary folk to find out and react accordingly? Idk, it's just a feeling I get even as a not-particularly-royalist. So that's another reason I find it hard to believe Harry isn't Charles's son. I don't think they could possibly hide it for this long without the truth coming out (I don't count tabloid gossip as the truth.)

(Anonymous) 2021-03-27 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
IMO, if the royals found out that Harry was illegitimate, they would've quietly planned a more out-of-the-limelight life for him from an earlier stage. Not shunning, not as a pariah, but closer to what his cousins do. Especially after William married and had his first kid.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-27 09:24 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, but most royal bastards where illegimate children of a hguy not a woman...

That aside, Harry is definately Charles son. Diana really believed in all that royal bloodline crap and considered it her duty to give the Crown the heir and the spare to keep the "bloodline" going. And her romance with Hewitt started later.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-27 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Most known ones yes, but the others exist as well. When they were tracking one of the royal bloodlines (I think it was to identify Richard III's remains) they were unable to continue the y-chromosone line due to false paternity events. So it does happen, but was more likely to be covered up