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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-03-28 04:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #5196 ]


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(Anonymous) 2021-03-28 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I mean, the broad consensus is that the Simpsons stopped being good sometime around the late 90s. Some people think it was good into the mid-00s, but even by that standard, the show has been really bad for at least as long as it was actually good at this point.

It's a bummer but what are you going to do.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-28 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I caught an episode from season 14 earlier today and I could very much sense, ah yes, this is when they were still mostly okay but starting to slide toward inconsistency. 15-20 is where the wheels came off I think.

I just want Harry Shearer and Hank Azaria to show up one day, spend an hour making fart noises into the mics, and force them to make an episode out of it. They would.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-28 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I still love the show. That's much more secret worthy than this, which everyone seems to believe.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2021-03-28 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I still enjoy the show! But I never found it to be this profound thing that so many do.
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(Anonymous) 2021-03-28 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Same here. Maybe that's why I still enjoy it? LOL!

(Anonymous) 2021-03-28 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
What do you like about the show?
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[personal profile] philstar22 2021-03-28 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. My dad still watches, but I have no interest. Honestly, watching so many bad episodes before I gave up made me lose a lot of my interest in the earlier good stuff too. Once in a blue moon I'll rewatch the good seasons, but it is much rarer than my rewatches of other things.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-28 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah that's what happens when a show just never, ever, ever fucking ends
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2021-03-28 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I am definitely in the team that thinks it isn't as good as it used to be. I can even accept there are still gems now and again even though I can't be bothered to invest in it anymore.

But no amount of occasional good will change one of my biggest issues. Watching the "early" days recently I was struck by exactly how many one-off celebrity cameos they had but you weren't necessarily aware, because they were playing a character. Now it feels like any "celebrity" episode is that actual celebrity or an extremely obvious cut and paste of that celebrity and idk, but for me that is the perfect illustration of the many ways the show lost heart.

Other issues involve characterisation of the Simpsons themselves but I would be here all night!

(Anonymous) 2021-03-28 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Hands down my favorite one-off cameo was Jeff Goldblum as Troy MacLure's agent MacArthur Parker!
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2021-03-28 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
To my shame, I didn't realise that one for years haha!

I also totally missed Dustin Hoffman (I think I was still quite young when Lisa's Substitute first aired) but when I found out I just loved that episode even more.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-28 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
You're totally right, and it's a marker of how much more one-note the show has become in general with its writing

(Anonymous) 2021-03-28 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I know it's not the point you're making but the X-Files episode was so perfect.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2021-03-28 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh that is THE exception to the rule. I'm actually going through The X Files atm and we hit The Simpsons episode around the same time in the point of our X Files watch where those episodes were aired at the same time. It's the perfect example of a pop culture moment aligning and it going really, really well.

Although I know it was still more "fiction" celebrities than real celebrities as it was Mulder and Scully not Duchovny and Anderson. Also Leonard Nimoy was himself and is probably one of those rare early actual celebrities in The Simpsons who was used sparingly. The problem was when the celebrities became THE focal point. Mulder and Scully you could believe it was just an animated light-hearted X Files episode.

I don't think The Simpsons could pull off something like that crossover now.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-28 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
No I agree, it existed in a perfect moment where it was just right.

Leonard Nimoy's initial cameo was lightly done and worked really well. I also feel though that it conversely marked the point where they started feeling more and more comfortable moving away from the 'real' world of the Simpsons which was the core of the show.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2021-03-29 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
some of the celebrities they picked were not known for comedy ability and some of them were really misused, neither of which helped.
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[personal profile] deleted_scenes 2021-03-29 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Sometimes I catch myself thinking "Remember when Aerosmith guest starring on The Simpsons was an _event_?!"
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2021-03-28 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
this was my comment which I didn't even intend to be a secret but I'm glad a lot of people agree with me.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-29 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
I mostly only watched the Simpson's regularly in college and grad school, so late 90s to mid-00s. Already by then people were telling me it was less good than it used to be. Weird that more time has elapsed since then that between the early years of the show and when I started watching.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-29 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. As someone who used to be completely and utterly obsessed with the Simpsons, I still occasionally check out a new episode. Sometimes they get a few chuckles out of me buuuut that's about it. I just wish they'd end it already D:(It particularly frustrates and bemuses me how often the couch gag is more interesting and creative than the episode it's a part of these days.)
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[personal profile] epicurean 2021-03-29 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I grew up with old Simpsons and I feel it shaped up a lot of my humor. Watching the newer seasons is like watching a completely different show. Funny enough, watching newer shows feel like the old Simpsons more than current Simpsons.