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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-03-29 11:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #5197 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5197 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[House of Games]


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[James Bond]


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[Falcon and the Winter Soldier]


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[resized]


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[Poirot]


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[Miraculous Ladybug]


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[OP warned for NSFW, illustrated porn]


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(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
I like a few of her stories, but most of them are boring, and it's no wonder. She said herself that she thinks normal stories with things like conflict and entertainment value are cheap and derivative. She was so up her own ass about being deep and profound and original that she forgot to be interesting.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
You might give The Left Hand of Darkness a try? It's got some *amazing* visuals.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
She said herself that she thinks normal stories with things like conflict and entertainment value are cheap and derivative.

Unless there's a very cranky interview or essay by her that I haven't seen yet (citation appreciated if you've got one), then what she actually said was that there exists an all too common assumption that stories require conflict, but that in truth there are lots of types of stories, many of which involve conflict but many of which don't.

Which I completely agree with. Just consider the six-word story attributed (perhaps apocryphally) to Hemingway:

"For sale: baby shoes, never worn."

There's absolutely no conflict there, but it is a story.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course there's conflict. It hints at the loss of a child through some means, whether it's miscarriage or something else, that loss and it's emotional and physical aftermath is the conflict.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-31 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
None of that appears in the story, though. To take your position to somewhat absurd lengths, "A painting hung on the wall," could according to your rubric be called a story that contains conflict, because the existence of a painting requires an artist who struggled to create their art.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2021-03-30 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I like some of her stuff, specifically Earthsea, though I wouldn't call it the best fantasy ever. Enjoyable if you know going in that it isn't going to be a big action thing.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
I like her, but she's not going to be for everyone, especially not for many genre fans that tend to expect, well, more entertainment from their genre reads than literary exercises and antropological musings and such. Nothing wrong with that - there shoudl be a place for all kinds of literature within s-f/fantasy.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
She was raised by anthropologists and it really shows in her writing. This works for me, but I totally understand that it doesn't work for a lot of people.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Meh. I think her style is similar to many of her mid-century SFF peers. She's credited with being among the first "New Wave" science fiction authors who were more literary than science-speculation, and that came to dominate SFF publishing later.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I find the writing extremely clinical. Like I'm reading a fluffed up anthropology textbook rather than a story about real people. It makes it very hard to get attached to anyone or anything happening in the story.

I still like her, and I really like her concepts, but actually reading the books is just the side of a chore.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of complaints I see about her writing are similar to those I see of my favourite author. I've never tried her stuff, though. Hmmm.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Who's your favourite author? (I love Ursula K. Le Guin and am always up for discovering similar writers.)

(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my issues with her is that she doesn't write about "regular" people. They're all accomplished intellectuals or gifted in some way. It's kind of off-putting to me, a blue-collar worker descended from blue-collars.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-30 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
See: Iris Murdoch.