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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-04-01 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #5200 ]


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(Anonymous) 2021-04-01 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

What do you mean?? If Dean Winchester was literally an eldest daughter?

(Anonymous) 2021-04-01 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
If somebody talked about how Dean Winchester had many traits societally associated with oldest daughters and how that resonated with them.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-01 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT
Oh, gotcha. I think that would make more sense than using the term coded, as coded kind of implies that was the intent in his character, which is...very, very questionable.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-02 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
I mean I don't think that Kripke was AWARE that that's what he was doing, but I don't think it's ridiculous that that's how fans describe it, because it's a lot easier than saying 'Dean Winchester shares many traits associated with elder daughter-hood'. From the age of FOUR his life revolved around taking care of a younger sibling, which is not normally a job that gets pushed onto eldest sons, whereas an eldest daughter often has to be an additional caretaker, so even though the writers would never describe him that way, and he wouldn't describe himself that way, nor do I think the association would ever occur to John while putting that job on his shoulders... he's going to wind up with some of the same baggage, because 'having to become a de facto parent instead of having a childhood' baggage is gender neutral.

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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2021-04-02 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's that unusual given there's no sister. Like you say, eldest sons get parentified/ pushed into the caring role, too, particularly if there are no girls (or aunts) to put in that role.