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⌈ Secret Post #5208 ⌋

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[Shoot 'Em Up (resized)]

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[Banana Fish]

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05. [SPOILERS for Kids Baking Championship]

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06. [SPOILERS for Big Little Lies S2]
[WARNING for discussion of rape]

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07. [WARNING for discussion of suicide]

[ID: Invaded]

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08. [WARNING for discussion of rape]

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09. [WARNING for discussion of noncon (probably?)]
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I don't disagree with the first part, actually! There are definitely things normalized by media that are harmful (colorism, euro-centric beauty standards, etc.), but where I start to have a problem is that I believe that the impact of personal likes and dislikes isn't as broad or serious as antis would have you believe. I don't think that a person being into, say, a ship with a large age gap, has any sort of influence beyond their own immediate sphere with that like. And an anti would crucify them for some "greater good", when all they've actually done is hurt someone that's done literally nothing wrong.

people still have a right to feel revulsion towards certain topics and depictions of things, and to want not to be associated with them in any way

I absolutely agree with this as well! There are topics that revolt me, upset me, trigger me-- and topics that are popular within fandom, at that. However, I do not have the right to tell others that they're not allowed to enjoy them because of my own revulsion. It's on me to mute and block those topics. Hell, I'm not even saying you can't personally judge-- god knows I do. But the line must be drawn at attacking others.

Most people already know that relationships between adults and minors is risky business at best and actively traumatic at worst — including the people who make content of that. Japan, the US, and the UK will all prosecute adults for having sexual relationships with minors. I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but I believe even romantic relationships are grounds for a case in one or more of the countries I listed.

As one example, underage prostitution in Japan is a marked issue... but if you go looking for it, the practice is often condemned even in hentai. In such works, the men pursuing such girls are portrayed as 1) ugly and bestial, with the girls are mindbroken beyond recognition, or 2) lonely and isolated, with no one else to turn to. Now granted, underage prostitution is a kink for a lot of people in Japan... but Japan is an extremely repressed country that has to wear a business suit and overwork itself into exhaustion day in and day out, so the temptation to throw all your responsibilities away for a taste of freedom is a strong one. Its sexual content is weird and taboo because it's an outlet, particularly for people who live vicariously through it instead of actually going out and seeking underage prostitutes. The people who are encouraged by fiction to go out and do abhorrent things are individuals who already couldn't differentiate between fiction and reality, which... is a community that overlaps significantly with antis.

Anyway, this tangent has gone on long enough already, but I'm fed up with people getting their knickers in a knot over cartoon — no, anime — characters while they remain blind to the exploitation of real children across the world, including in their own country.

where I start to have a problem is that I believe that the impact of personal likes and dislikes isn't as broad or serious as antis would have you believe.

Agreed. The analogy I use is accusing someone of destroying the environment because they use aerosolized hairspray. Like...really? That's where you're drawing your moral line? My dude, you wear blue jeans. Do you know how bad for the environment the production of blue jeans is? But that's mostly moot, too, I don't care that you wear blue jeans. It's the big shit we ought to be looking at if we want to preserve the planet.

"You posted a Dead Dove fanfic on the internet, with the appropriate tags attached; your gross kinks are poisoning society," feels similarly ridiculous to, "You use aerosolized hairspray; you're poisoning the planet, how dare you."

This is a great analogy and I might steal it.

Awesome, please do. :)

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