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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-04-17 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #5216 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5216 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-04-18 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
(Cozy Werewolf Anon) Okay, given the almost literal 1 in a million chance of them being published traditionally. If this person can't take concrit b/c they think they don't need it, then they aren't going to make it in trad publishing. Period. (Setting aside how white, cis-het, neurotypical, sanitized, and MALE trad publishing is to begin with and how you have to hit the right trend at the right TIME.)

And the things I've seen many writers/authors say about editing, especially development editing, on twitter is just... depressing. And horrifying. And I need a pillow so I can bang my head against a wall frustrating. (The rules apply to you. You need to dev edit your book. I don't care who you think you are. I dev edit my books. Just do it.)

On the OTHER hand, let's say they are on... Wattpad. If they have a large following on Wattpad. Wattpad works with Simon and Schuster (one of the smaller of the big imprints.) And if you can stand S&S's publishing policies (which aren't really any better than any other imprint) then they MIGHT have a chance, if they have a big following. B/C at that point it is MARKETING. But they'll still have an acquisitions editor go over it and they'll probably have to change a LOT. But any agent that picks up a book off of wattpad is going to tell you, they aren't doing it to make a huge debut splash. They aren't going to put a huge marketing push behind it at all. (Mostly b/c of first rights publishing issues. Hand wave.)

Otherwise, well, there is self-pubbing, both serially (like on Wattpad or Royal Road or even Patreon) and wholesale on the 'Zon. But be prepared to be drowned out by everyone else trying the same thing. So, unless they have a 10 Grand marketing plan or, enough books to publish them every three months prepared in advance. Then... welcome to slush? Unless they're doing patreon then they better have a huge following actually interested in their original concept. (Many fan people actually aren't interested in original concepts unless that original concept was an AU of the fandom thing already. See 50 Shades, After, Cassie Claire, etc.)

so, those are the options. Enjoy your schadenfreude I guess, OP.

May I direct anyone interested to my website and my free Post Fiction Production guides to help anyone else avoid all these publishing pitfalls. Just scroll towards the bottom past my fiction stuff, but hey, if you like werewolves, I've got you covered. https://ginny0.wordpress.com/books/

(Anonymous) 2021-04-19 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for your intelligent insight, Cozy Werewolf Anon. I still need to read your stuff. I'm also a writer who did fandom stuff and is editing my first novel. (Editor lined up for June and everything)

I was never a BNF, but I sure know that fandom readers, as much as they say they like you, don't really care about original stuff. Not in my experience anyway.