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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-01-31 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #757 ]


⌈ Secret Post #757 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 166.

[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2009-02-02 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, well, this too. Sorry, I totally oversimplified that statement to a pretty ridiculous degree (I think I was in a hurry to get the comment posted). It's a whole mess. The vote was so close that a greater voter turnout by Prop 8 opposers could have probably made things turn out differently, but the misinformation given in the churches was part of it too. The Anti-Prop 8 campaign should have gone into the churches themselves, but that had more to do with mishandling the campaign than apathy.

The thing said by the mayor of San Fransisco, it was just a stupid little blip that unfortunately got used in all the worst ways (a politician should have known better, but the man's such a vocal LGBT supporter that I'm resistant to blaming him for too much).

It's just. A lot of the LGBT movement has lacked motivation for a while now, and the Prop 8 vote was an unfortunate wake-up call to the situation.

Utility v. Morality, oh man oh man.

Re: 166.

(Anonymous) 2009-02-02 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
From what I've heard, the Yes on Prop 8 campaign was quite a bit more organized and well-funded than the No on Prop 8 one. I'm guessing overall there are more people in California who either support or don't really mind gay marriage than the people who are actively opposed to it, but from a campaign standpoint, the Yes people did quite a lot right. Maybe the No people didn't really consider them a threat?

Think going to the churches would really have done much?

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[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2009-02-02 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
There were more than a few people who just didn't think Prop 8 had a chance, yeah. The millions of dollars pouring in from the Mormon church didn't help either.

Doing something to correct all of the misinformation circulating, yeah. California's actually got a lot of protection regarding the kind of education parents want their children to have, but that information didn't make it everywhere.

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[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2009-02-02 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
Also, liberalism v. conservativism in California's kind of a frustrating situation. Always a blue state, with huge liberal big-city centers, but with a Republican governor and many Republican officials who enjoy pretty stable positions most of the time. A huge immigrant population that tends to lean conservative. That sort of thing. Prop 8 opposers overlooked too many constituencies and made too many assumptions.