[ SECRET POST #5232 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5232 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Considering the parallel in this case is to Daenerys, who also nearly died giving birth (to a stillborn child, no less) and was rendered infertile as a result, I don't really think it was meant to be positive in ASoIaF either, no matter what some fanboys' hardons would like people to think.

Generally when people defend things like child brides in fantasy literature, though, they're defending the author's choice to include that part of history or popular perception of history. They aren't defending the practice.

[(Anonymous)]

I think Game of Thrones is a case where the author tries to have their cake and eat it too. There is some amount of Male Gaze with how things relating to sex, even if it's supposed to be bad, are written. Even in the show adaptation, there were interviews with the showrunners about how much effort was made to get the "sex scenes" right. The rape scenes had porn actors hired to get it "just right".

I don't think that trying to have your cake and eat it too is a matter that's unique to GRRM or the showrunners. I think they come from the same social framework that chooses to have negative things that are written with titillation and plot progression together.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the problem for me in ASOIAF is that they have very young girls being married off (and occasionally young boys) which is fair enough but then it's very male gazey about the young girl's boobs in particular. Even from her own POV. The TV show aged Dany up and she was still very young.