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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-02-03 04:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #760 ]


⌈ Secret Post #760 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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102.
[Battlestar Galactica]


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[Anderson Cooper]


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[Hayate the Combat Buttler, Nagi and the Student Council Trio]


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105.
[Smallville, Supernatural]


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107.
[Nabari no Ou]


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108.
[Heroes and 'Gute zeiten, Schlechte Zeiten']


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[Hellboy 2]


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[Bleighton]


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112. [repeat]


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[Psych, Dexter]


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114. [repeat]


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115.
[Supernatural]


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[High School Musical]


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[PGSM RPFS Keiko KitagawaXAyaka Komatsu]


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[resized, not repeat]


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134.
[Kimi wa Petto]


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[Scrooged]


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[Avatar]


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[Ghostbusters]


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[katemodern]


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[The Terminator/T2: Judgment Day]


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[Lordi]


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[Left4Dead]


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[Tokio Hotel]


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[Phoenix Wright/Ace Attorney]


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[Kodomo no Jikan]


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[Avatar, Stormbenders]


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[Friendly Hostility]


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[Being Human]


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173. [not a secret]


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[Hugh Laurie/Stephen Fry; House/Wilson]


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Re: 110

[identity profile] etherealtsuki.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
That's why we learn that acting in our self interest is not the way to go. Humans aren't naturally altruistic beings, in fact we're quite selfish, we have to learn what is and is not appropriate. By the time we become to a stage that we can start reasoning somewhat for ourselves, we should have an idea what to do and not to do based on those very lessons our role models (and society) instill in us.

Sorry, if you think environment doesn't have a hand, I don't know what you tell you.

Re: 110

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Of course I think environment has a hand. I also think that you're full of shit when you say that the reason kids with messed up families are messed up is because everyone's innately evil, so it only makes sense. Do you even think about the implications of that? Do you have anything to substantiate that other than the fact that environment matters? Christ.

I don't care if you don't think people are very nice (though you might want to think about that one a little more, because if we're all little devils then what do we care about learning to be nice to eachother?), but I can't understand how you can spout such crap about the trouble with abused kids and expect not to be called on it.

Re: 110

[identity profile] etherealtsuki.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, I did not say that? I don't know where you came up with that. I said that people are inherently evil, and if they don't learn what's good or not, they tend to cause crimes. It is because we learn what is right or wrong is why everyone is not killing everyone over every single thing.

Why you do think kids get abused? The parent didn't learn that it wasn't okay, only repeated what they know from personal experience of being abused themselves. Does it excuse the behavior? No. Some learn not to do it and don't abuse their children at all. That's why psychologists put some emphasis in that when reviewing abuse cases.

People learn how to be nice because it benefits more all around. I mean, would you hang out with a completely selfish person or a nice one?

Re: 110

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
You're assuming that people from abusive families are unable to determine what's good, which is pretty stupid and backwards. It's just as likely that constant exposure to terrible things WILL teach you what's bad and why you shouldn't act exclusively in your own self interest.

Why you do think kids get abused? The parent didn't learn that it wasn't okay, only repeated what they know from personal experience of being abused themselves.

So every case of abuse in the world is perpetuated by someone who has been abused? I really don't think the facts add up, there.

People learn how to be nice because it benefits more all around. I mean, would you hang out with a completely selfish person or a nice one?

If everyone is evil, then who really cares? There's no point.

Re: 110

[identity profile] etherealtsuki.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
You're assuming that people from abusive families are unable to determine what's good, which is pretty stupid and backwards. It's just as likely that constant exposure to terrible things WILL teach you what's bad and why you shouldn't act exclusively in your own self interest.
People who do abuse who do it because they determined it's okay or, in a extremely twisted sense, think it's actually good. It usually takes an outside influence to make them realize that abuse is not okay because children has a very unfortunate way to make it seem like it's their fault or normalize it.

So every case of abuse in the world is perpetuated by someone who has been abused? I really don't think the facts add up, there.
Or raised with the belief it's okay. More often than not, abusers were the abused at a certain point in their life. I've seen it, living in one of the worst ghettos in the 1990's, where people thought it was okay to beat your kid, even to the point that they brag about it was the same for them. If we're going to base the world, how about abuse and honor killing among the very few extremist Islamic sects? They're raised with the belief that it's alright to do that, even it's a good thing to do for honor.

If everyone is evil, then who really cares? There's no point.
It wouldn't benefit no one and chaos would reign if we didn't try to curb it. To do/be good and whatnot is a habit we have to learn to function although it can be a hard thing to do sometimes.

Re: 110

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're missing my point.

Re: 110

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
I understand yours: People are affected by their environments, and what they are taught to believe is right or normal will form the way that they behave in the future.

It still doesn't prove that your conclusion is the correct one.

Re: 110

[identity profile] etherealtsuki.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, it happens right now, like it or not.

Re: 110

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
What happens right now, abuse? No shit! What are you even saying?

Re: 110

[identity profile] etherealtsuki.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I'm saying learning what certain behaviors are acceptable or what not happening now.

But I finishing here because I rather not spend my night on this.