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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-02-03 04:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #760 ]


⌈ Secret Post #760 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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102.
[Battlestar Galactica]


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103.
[Anderson Cooper]


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104.
[Hayate the Combat Buttler, Nagi and the Student Council Trio]


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105.
[Smallville, Supernatural]


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106.


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107.
[Nabari no Ou]


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108.
[Heroes and 'Gute zeiten, Schlechte Zeiten']


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109.
[Hellboy 2]


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110.


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111.
[Bleighton]


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112. [repeat]


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113.
[Psych, Dexter]


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114. [repeat]


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115.
[Supernatural]


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116.
[High School Musical]


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117.


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118.
[PGSM RPFS Keiko KitagawaXAyaka Komatsu]


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128.
[resized, not repeat]


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134.
[Kimi wa Petto]


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136.
[Scrooged]


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137.
[Avatar]


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141.
[Ghostbusters]


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142.
[katemodern]


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147.
[The Terminator/T2: Judgment Day]


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149.
[Lordi]


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150.
[Left4Dead]


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152.
[Tokio Hotel]


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157.
[Phoenix Wright/Ace Attorney]


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159.
[Kodomo no Jikan]


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161.
[Avatar, Stormbenders]


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165.
[Friendly Hostility]


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168.
[Being Human]


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173. [not a secret]


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[Hugh Laurie/Stephen Fry; House/Wilson]


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Re: 110

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
And my point is that the idea that every action has a reaction, or that all actions have a cause, is not mutually excluded from the idea that there are always many different outcomes that could have happened within the system. There is no one single path.

Re: 110

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
And - as a counterpoint to that - there is no completely free will. Everything happens within a system, but that system is one of influence, not control.

Re: 110

[identity profile] 7thisgod.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
If all actions have a cause and all actions have a consequence, there is indeed a single path. For there to be different paths in such a system, it would need to have either an action that has no reaction or an spontaneously created action without a cause. This is pretty basic logic.

Re: 110

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
That's exactly right. Every action has a cause, but not every cause has an action. Stop and think for a moment, I'm sure you'll find plenty of examples of this in your life.

Re: 110

[identity profile] 7thisgod.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
If it is a cause, it is because the reaction already exists. However, I'll assume you meant that not every action has a cause and say that such would be impossible unless said action exists beyond this chain of causality. It's about consequences.

Everything that happens has a cause. Hormones, environment, external impulses... these are causes.

Re: 110

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't say that. Don't assume a different meaning becaues it doesn't make sense to you! I am saying that not every "cause" has an action, because it is only a possible cause. It could have caused an action, it's perfectly suitable to do so, but then it doesn't.

Then, you have causes with multiple actions, or multiple courses of actions. You can react in many different ways to the same cause.

Look, all I'm saying is that you're supposing a linear system when there is absolutely no basis to do so.

Re: 110

[identity profile] 7thisgod.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Possible causes already created some kind of outcome. That's the reason said final outcome exists. Nothing goes without consequence and it creates an effect to some degree.

And the problem is that the system is either linear(action-reaction) or random and there is no logical way to go around it unless we assume something can be created out of nothing.

Re: 110

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Basically, what you just said to me is "Yes it does."

Re: 110

[identity profile] 7thisgod.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose this discussion will never grow out of this "NO U" dynamic if we continue. It was nice while it lasted.

Later.

Re: 110

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Well, at least you admit you're not willing to listen.

Re: 110

[identity profile] 7thisgod.livejournal.com 2009-02-04 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
You're just providing nothing I haven't read before. You did nothing to try to break the paradigm I gave you. All "causes" were necessary for the final consequence to exist. That's what action-reaction and causality mean. You're trying to circumcise this paradigm rather than to actually try to understand it.