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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-02-08 04:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #765 ]


⌈ Secret Post #765 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 17 pages, 408 secrets from Secret Submission Post #110.
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NP, i know how it is

[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, but there's a difference between those swords and the Lohengrin sword. We don't know of any people named Excalibur or Omens or whoever in those stories. However, we do know that Mytho's true name is Siegfried--both a reference to Swan Lake, and a reference to the character from Wagner's Ring Cycle (Siegfried's death march from the opera is used as one of Mytho's themes in the show)...and Lohengrin is a character from another one of Wagner's operas. The reference fits well within the world of the show. Excalibur is an object in Arthurian legend, but Lohengrin is actually a person.

As for everyone using it, that's really the nature of fanon, and something that happens in all fandoms. Nobody's forcing you to use the name in your own fic if you don't want to, it's just an easy way to identify him and give him a name. I mean, when it comes right down to it, Evil!Mytho isn't a name, either, but it's easier to say than "Mytho in the second season when he's tainted by Raven's blood and wears a black ballet costume." And the Knight could just be called...the Knight, but then you could confuse him with the Ghost Knight from episode 18, or Fakir himself.

Re: NP, i know how it is

(Anonymous) 2009-02-10 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a reference to a real mythological knight, yes, but that still does not indicate that the Sword of Lohengrin ever belonged to the Knight from "Prinz und Rabe", nor that that Knight was named Lohengrin. "Mytho" is a name, "Evil" is a descriptive. The actual characters in the anime never referred to the Knight as anything but "the Knight" and it didn't seem to confuse viewers. A lot of fairy tale characters, protagonists or otherwise, don't actually have proper names.

IT JUST IRRITATES ME IS ALL. DAMMIT, WHY CAN'T PEOPLE JUST DO EVERYTHING MY WAY?!

Re: NP, i know how it is

[identity profile] tenmorehours.livejournal.com 2009-02-10 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, that's slightly incorrect. I'm pretty sure that when Fakir is asking for it from Charon, he says "You promised you'd let me have it--The Knight's sword. The Lohengrin Sword." Now, this is me saying this from memory, and I'm slightly more familiar with the dub (I'm hearing Chris Patton's voice saying this, I know that for sure), and I'm at college so I can't currently check my DVDs, so I can't promise this is 100% accurate--but if the quote is close to what I'm remembering, Fakir is saying the Lohengrin Sword is The Knight's sword. The two are definitely connected...as long as my memory isn't failing me and "the knight's sword" isn't exclusive to the dub. (Which is generally very close to the official subs, buuuut every now and then something's "off".)

I IDENTIFY WITH PEOPLE NOT DOING THINGS MY WAY, HOWEVER. So I'm not...like...saying you're a horrible fan or anything. XD;;; I have my own hang-ups about things, like...people using Ahiru instead of Duck. (LOL, yes, I know. It actually only bothers me in fanfiction set in canon, too. Long story that.)

Re: NP, i know how it is

(Anonymous) 2009-02-11 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Well now that I don't recall. I have the DVDs but have only watched bits and pieces of the dub, so I was going off my memories of the fansubs.

I like it when people use Duck, but I still mostly call her Ahiru because I got used to it. :P