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(Anonymous) 2009-02-10 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)I think what it comes down to is that incest is one of "those" taboos that's so ingrained we just accept that it's immoral and move on with our lives. In addition to a truckload of psychological triggers that make it personally unappealing (Westermarck effect), the taboo also makes it a huge social stigma. I wish I knew the reasons that incest became taboo. None of the reasons we cite today really seem like they would have been relevant in the past. We also know some cultures deliberately practiced it. (How many pharaohs married their sisters?) These days, it's pretty much a squick because it's a squick, it seems. (shrugs) The psychology and stigma of the whole thing make it pretty clear that it's going to stay that way for a while.
I'm probably about to have my throat jumped down, but I really don't see what's wrong with consensual sex (adult implied, since children can't consent), regardless of family connections.
1: THINK OF THE CHILDREN.
We've long since reached a point in our society where we've decided that sex is not purely for procreation—and even if a pregnancy should happen, we don't prevent people with a high risk of passing on a debilitating genetic problem from having children.
1a: CHILD ABUSE.
Again, consensual implies adult.
2: Psychologically damaging.
Not always (for example, Luke/Leia where the Westermarck affect doesn't apply and there's no power differentials). We also don't regulate people to "only healthy relationships", especially seeing as it's difficult to say that a relationship will be damaging beforehand.
3: Potential for abuse.
Again, not always (Luke/Leia again), and every relationship has a potential for abuse. We also do not regulate this until the abuse actually happens.
4: Social stigma.
There's social stigma in a lot of things—especially those that were once considered immoral (a woman having sex before marriage, for example). Again, that doesn't mean something is wrong or should be illegal—only that most people think is is and should be. As history has shown us, "everybody" is not always right.
5: The Bible says it's wrong.
I invite you to read the Bible; there's some divinely-sanctioned incest in there. An example is Gen.17:15-16 & 12:13 (Abram & Sarai are half-siblings). So it's not really all that clear-cut (as many things in the Bible seem to be). I would also like to remind you not that everyone accepts the Bible or its tenants.
That's pretty much all I can think of, but if someone else wants to throw me a bone (or try to change my mind? That's always fun), I'll be happy to gnaw on it. :D Let the condemnation begin! (Assuming anyone actually reads this far down.)