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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-06-24 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #5284 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5284 ⌋

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[Las Lindas]


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[Pride and Prejudice]


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[Matt Fraction's Hawkeye]


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[Murdoch Mysteries]


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[Clerks]


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[My Fair Lady]






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(Anonymous) 2021-06-24 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
That might be fun when you're in your 20's but after that unless you're all losers, everyone is going to pair off, get better jobs, move away, etc. Nobody wants to be a clerk until they're old unless they're something wrong with them -- OP, you might want to check out Convenience Store Woman by Sayaka Murata.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-24 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
*there's

(Anonymous) 2021-06-24 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like this is a sort of ignorance to what a lot of people in their 20s/late millennials and early zoomers are feeling about the economy and capitalism in general (mainly in the US).

We don't have a lot of mobility, we don't have a lot of cash flow, and we don't have a lot of hope for the future.

Like, I can understand this looking good, when it's impossible for most of us.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-24 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ehh, this is certainly true sometimes, but not always. I'm older than most of FS and I've developed a very "if it isn't hurting anyone, let it be" attitude over the years, and honestly if somebody wants to work at McDonald's or a convenience store or whatever and is content with their lives, its no skin off my or anyone else's nose.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2021-06-25 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
offs, lots of people don't "pair off" as you put it and that doesn't necessarily make them losers. The real losers are the ones who settle for someone they don't belong with out of desperation and never do anything about it.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Hear, hear!

(Anonymous) 2021-06-27 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2021-06-27 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
have fun being in your shitty relationship....

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Rebuttal: I would love to be a clerk in a video store if we still had video stores, because I enjoy talking about movies.

This also assumes that being a video store clerk would adequately pay my bills.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
God, I hate it when people start with this shit. Because of a lot of trauma, I sometimes have to congratulate myself on just being functional: waking up everyday, going to work on time, paying my own bills. I have a pretty shit job that doesn't offer much mobility, but, goddammit, I'm doing my best to maintain that shit and bring noone down. When people like you go off about what a loser I must be because, surely, at this age I should have progressed further, it just makes me want to spiral. Have some respect for people's lives that you may not possibly understand if they are hurting noone and taking care of themselves.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU! Also, for the AYRT, sometimes people have stuff wrong with them that makes a low stakes (not low skill, I don't think there are such things tbh) job a good option, and it sure sounds like you're implying having shit wrong with them and working non world changing, low stakes, low wage jobs makes them lesser people, which is bullshit.

I thought I would be stuck in an institution when I turned 18 because I could barely function as a teenager, nevermind an adult. I'm in my late 30s now and often have to congratulate myself for making it through my workweek with clean clothes, washing my dishes, basic stuff.

But I have a steady full time benefitted job and a fucking pension plan, I help people all day, stock the breakroom with treats for my coworkers, come home and feed my pets... yes, I'm a loser. There are lots of us by AYRT's standards and we and our service scut work make modern society work.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I very much relate to this, anon, and ITA.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
What's wrong with a person who doesn't have aspirations with big dreams to always improve? How are they hurting society? There will always be a need for store clerks, and if someone can get by their whole life as a store clerk what is the harm? They will be perceived as underachievers and are less successful than their peers? What if they are OK with that? How is it hurting you that they are OK with it?

Don't mean to attack you, but I've recently been learning about how "motivation" and "hustle culture" is more of a myth rather that a fact of life and part of the white Christian propaganda.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
DA
Can you tell me more about that latter paragraph of yours?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
I think you'll find it's just part of capitalist propoganda and nothing to do with either Christianity or being white.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-06-25 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
There's some overlap w/r/t moral and ethical good, and how that's justified specifically in the west.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone that doesn't pair off or get a "better job" is a loser, huh? Nice to know you're still a shithead in a pandemic economy.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
The only reason "nobody wants to be a clerk" is because of the shit wages and insecurity, not because you have something wrong with you. I've read Convenience Store Woman and you'll note that there's plenty about what's structurally wrong with Japan's economy and society there too.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
*squints*

Unsure if world-class troll or just standard-issue asshole.

(Anonymous) 2021-06-25 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Lots of convenience store workers pair off?

(Anonymous) 2021-06-26 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Eh... Not really. I know plenty of people in lower grade service and maintenance/repairs work who love low stakes jobs because it's steady work and they have the freedom off-hours to pursue their real passions. A long-time pizza delivery person I know just uses it to pay the bills while happily doing art off-hours. A mason I know does the work and then goes home to a horse and kids, and has no desire to stress over a supervising position. I work with plumbers, custodians, construction workers, and so on who would rather not deal with the stress of "getting better jobs" or whatever, because it's not a priority for them. Ain't nothing wrong with service jobs.

- A project manager who misses the low stress of data entry a lot, actually.

(Anonymous) 2021-08-01 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Sayaka Murata, the writer of Convenience Store Woman, worked at one herself for years and said she actually really enjoyed it. It gave her a place to go during the night when she couldnt sleep and lots of writing inspiration. Quitting to just write was something she described as incredibly jarring. Her books are mostly about how falling into society's expectations and "pairing up" as you say is a really oppression thing. This is the most confusing comment ever if youre a reader of her work.