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fandomsecrets2009-02-11 04:59 pm
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[ SECRET POST #768 ]
⌈ Secret Post #768 ⌋
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Re: 125
As for comparing Wall-E to Citizen Kane, that would be entirely idiotic as they're extraordinarily different movies from different times in cinema about vastly different things. It's not like there's an Objective Movie Score of Goodness, and frankly I think if you can pick a Greatest Movie Of All Time you just haven't seen enough movies. But they did both do new and inventive things for their respective times. As did 2001, by the way, and the myriad other examples I pointed out. Calling something innovative doesn't necissarily mean I think it's the best movie of all time. Personally, yes, I think it was the best movie of the year, but I recognize that space opera, robots in love, and the environmental message of the movie might not have been everyone's cup of tea (I didn't much care for the cockroach, myself). That said, it did some things technically that you have to respect. Maybe it didn't invent deep focus or the high- and low- angle shot or do the things with lighting that Welles did with Kane, but what they did with sound and script, especially in the first forty minutes, is extremely impressive and innovative.
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(Anonymous) 2009-02-13 09:32 am (UTC)(link)I agree the work in the film is technically impressive. However, I'm not sure I'd call it innovative. Short animated features have been doing this sort of thing for years. 9(the original short) and More are two that jump to mind that accomplish their goals in similar fashion, and Pixar's had a few shorts like that as well. I can attest from experience, telling a story and conveying emotion when your characters don't speak(at least not in the conventional sense) is probably one of, if not THE hardest thing to do in writing, and I really do think my issues with the movie start after we get other characters involved. I'm not sure I'd call it innovative.
Burtt's sound work in the movie is tremendous... I love how he invents a new soundscape for every film he does... but I'm not sure it was, on the whole, that much more inventive than his work on Star Wars. He had to do more with it, quite true. And I think Burtt's work conveys more emotion than the conventional VAs later in the movie. Then again, people have always had an easy time connecting with R2-D2, another character whose emotions were conveyed through Burtt's work.
The real test, of course, is to see what we're saying several years down the line. I think Wall-E could be an important step in seeing animation branch out more. If the movie helps animation continue to grow as a genre, I'm ultimately all for it.
Personally speaking, though, I never expected Wall-E to get the Best Picture nod, anyway. Just like the New York Times developing a separate Young Adult Bestseller section, the Academy likely threw the Best Animated Picture bone to keep the "kid movies" from taking attention away from the "serious work". Maybe Wall-E will, if nothing else, start to change that.