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⌈ Secret Post #776 ⌋

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101.

[Half-Life 2]

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102.

[Quantum Leap]

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103.

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105.

[Leverage]

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107.

[Criminal Minds]

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108.

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109.

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110.

[Repo]

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111.

[Lego Batman]

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112.

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113.

[The Father Dowling Mysteries]

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114.

[My Name is Earl]

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115.

[The L Word]

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116.

[Andy Kaufman/Robin Williams]

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117.

[Bones]

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118.

[Nodame Cantabile]

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119.

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120.

[Patrick Wolf]

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121.

[M*A*S*H]

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122.

[Tyler Perry(as Madea) / Tori Spelling]

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124.

[DBSK, Yunho]

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125.

[Final Fantasy Tactics A2]

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126.

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127.

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128.

[The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T]

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129.

[Blades of Glory]

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130.

[Anthony Stewart Head - Buffy/Rocky Horror/Repo!]

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131.

[Naruto]

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132.

[Big Business]

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133.

[Cowards]

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135.

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136.

[Seto Kaiba and Mokuba Kaiba; Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters]

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137.

[Lily Loveless/Kathryn Prescott/Megan Prescott, Skins]

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139.

[Star Trek: TNG]

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140.

[Yukan Club]

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141.

[Phantom of the Paradise]

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[Sora wo Kakeru Shoujo]

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143.

[The Tomorrow People, New Series]

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144.

[Avatar]

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146.

[BtVS/Ats]

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147.

[Greg Ayres/Kaoru Hitachiin]

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151.

[ST:DS9, Garak/Bashir and Ziyal]

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[drop dead fred]

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156.

[Reduced Shakespeare Company, The Complete Works of Shakespeare (Abridged)]

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157.

[Tropic Thunder; Robert Downey Jr.]

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158.

[Silent Hill]

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159.

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160.

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161.

[College Humor: Jake & Amir]

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162.

[Top Chef Season 5]

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163.

[Gurren Lagann, Evangelion]

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[Ouran High School Host Club/Reborn!, Mori/Chrome]

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But see, that's your opinion, and I don't agree with it. The B&B's, well, who cares? They were throw away bad guys, there to fight again, learn their backstory for about five to ten minutes of verbal diarrhea, and then never to be heard/seen again. That happens to bad guys in a lot of games, male and female alike, so I can't really see that so much as misogyny as it is just a cliche.

And I didn't really see Naomi and Sunny interactions as Naomi as being a mother type figure. It seemed more like Naomi just being the first woman that Sunny's ever really been exposed to. And while the situation may not have sit well with you due to personal experiences, you can't expect your view of it to be that way for everyone. Because I certainly didn't see it in that regard.

Also, I don't see how Rose really failed. They could've definitely rounded out that story arch a bit to make it a little less sudden at the end, but Rose's reactions to everything were perfectly human and believable. And really? "Marked gender?" You have to understand that Rose, unlike just about everyone else, had no real connections (except maybe Roy, and well...), was pregnant and defenseless, and had a fiance that was slowly going insane/becoming horribly depressed, drunk half the time, and having random bouts of severe violence. Who wouldn't be scared? And who wouldn't do what was best for themselves and their unborn child? Her decisions during that time were, while not ideal to her, completely reasonable, and pretty much her best option. And I rather liked quite a few of her codecs, what with their tapping on the fourth wall at times.

Really, I do see where you're coming from in regards to a few things. But I really can't agree with them, for the most part. So, I guess this is agree to disagree.

I agree about the B&Bs being throwaway bad guys, much like the Cobras in MGS3, but there's the thing - the Cobras weren't ridiculously sexualised, and were portrayed as far from physically perfect. A group of throwaway female villains like the Cobras would've been heavenly, imo; a bunch of quirky older women with fuck-all backstories, there to challenge and ultimately aid you, throwing their lives away with final explody honour? I would have loved it. But instead, we got teh pron, and the idea that by killing these pooooor victims we were just putting them out of their misery.

Rose having no real connections and being pregnant and defenceless is Rose being of marked gender. It doesn't matter whether she did the 'right thing' or not; either way, everything about her role in the story is defined by the fact that she has a vagina. She has connections to Raiden and to Campbell because she has a vagina. Meryl judges her connection with Campbell harshly, because she has a vagina. She has no other connections because Metal Gear only ever passes the Bechdel Test once (Naomi & Sunny) - so her vagina-ed-ness prevents her from interacting with people. And her ultimate intention is to be 'the wife and mother this family needs', because she has a vagina.

Male characters in adventure stories are never so plot-constricted by their genitalia; 'marked gender' means basically that having a male gender is a neutral position which doesn't affect someone's plot role, but having a female gender frequently does. And that's misogyny, whether Rose did the right thing or not. Something being misogynistic doesn't prevent it from being enjoyable - otherwise it'd be hard to enjoy anything in pop culture - but even misogyny that makes in-character sense is still misogyny.

Yeah, um... Please. You're so focused on her vagina, no wonder you miss her character. I'm sorry that there's someone in the MGS canon that actually settles into the category of a normal and average human being, and used what little resources she had available to her to protect her child. I'm sorry that her being a mother connects to her vagina, and therefore somehow makes her fail. And I'm sorry you seem so crazily bitter about it.

So, I'll just end this conversation with you right now. Because you are coming off as way too headstrong, and it's to the point of being incredibly obnoxious. While I don't think that's how you were trying to behave, it's still how it is.

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