[ SECRET POST #5354 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5354 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Are you being obtuse on purpose? The reason for those disclaimers is still very much present and existent. AO3 has a strict 'no links to monetary gain' rule in place for that exact reason.

The risk of legal action isn't "in the past" just because fandom has turned capitalist.

[(Anonymous)]

If your concern is with the legal risk, then frame it as a question of legal risk. That's not a moral consideration. It's also largely up to individual people and individual websites what kind of risk they want to expose themselves to in terms of legal action. It's not your position to dictate terms to all fan creators everywhere of what kind of behavior is acceptable.

[(Anonymous)]

...at what point did I ever claim it was a moral consideration?

It's a legal issue. Full stop. And it doesn't just affect you and your shitty paywalled 'art', it affects everyone who wants to produce fan content for the IP you're illegally trying to sell for personal gain.

You're the asshole here, not the people trying to explain why.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not your position to dictate terms to all fan creators everywhere of what kind of behavior is acceptable.

No, it's not: it's the law's position, which is quite clear in explicitly stating monetizing fanworks is very much Not Acceptable.

The people in this thread are trying to explain this to you. They're not dictating terms, they are stating them. You know, as facts.

But sure, go off because you want clicks for your patreon or whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

Their is no 'individual' risk in this case. One case can knock the whole house of cards down and ruin it for everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

It's happening right now and the edifice is not tumbling down

[(Anonymous)]

Doesn't change the fact that it could, or that if it does it's not only the individual who would face the consequences.

You seem to have no counterpoint to anyone, beyond "well it's happening anyway so there!" and "la la la I don't care".

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. It's something that would hurt all fans if creators decide they want to forbid any sort of fanworks.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not morally wrong, and it's clearly not an existential threat to the existence of fandom. So the problem that people have with it clearly has much more to do with some imagined idea of "the good ol' days of fandom" than it does with any issue actually caused by commercial fanworks, as further seen throughout this thread. And I don't think nostalgic ideas about "the good ol' days of fandom" are a good reason to say that no one should charge money for fanworks.

[(Anonymous)]

Bulletin. If you don't get why people are afraid of legal ramifications, whether or not they've hit your particular fandom yet, despite dozens of people repeatedly explaining it, you're so far up your own self-gain-obsessed ass it's not worth trying any more.

Have fun convincing yourself you're not an ass, I'm done.

[(Anonymous)]

Bullshit^
Thanks, autocorrect.

[(Anonymous)]

You keep coming back to this being some sort of "morality" issue when you were the only one bringing morals into this. Who are you even arguing against?