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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-02-23 05:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #780 ]


⌈ Secret Post #780 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure]


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[ShakespeaRetold; The Taming of the Shrew]


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[Bones]


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[Torchwood]


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[Skins, Freddie]


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[resized]


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[Nintendo Power, Nester comic]


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[the lonely island, jorma/andy]


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[Are You Afraid of the Dark?]


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[Bill Hicks]


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[Dollhouse]


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[Dr. Horrible]


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[Merlin]


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[Pride and Prejudice]


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[Roger Bart]


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[Candy]


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[Dr. Who]


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[Rockers]


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[Soul Eater]


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[Scrap Heaven]


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[Avatar]


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[Erin Kelly, Loving Annabelle]


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[Joe Biden]


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[Bleach]


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(Anonymous) 2009-02-24 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
Every time I hear anybody say anything like this, I am inclined to believe that they haven't actually watched any significant portion of the damn show.

Forgive me, but I don't see how having an established gay relationship that is treated exactly the same as the het relationships on the show is fetishizing a damn thing. If you're complaining about the fanservice, then you've got a double standard, because the show does the same thing with het. If you're complaining about everyone's apparently loose orientations, you've got a somewhat more legitimate complaint, except for the fact that a point has been made to give every character's encounters appropriate weight and depth, regardless of whether they're f/f, m/f or m/m.

Torchwood has lots of sex in it. Forgive me for being somewhat fucking relieved to have a show that doesn't care so much about what genders are involved in said sex.

Re: 188

[identity profile] 3goodtimes.livejournal.com 2009-02-24 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I know. But the original poster is trying to say Torchwood somehow treats gay relationships differently than most yaoi. I would argue that's a bad example to use if we're talking depth here.

I think the show fetishizes both the straight and gay relationships on it. *shrug* Doesn't make my point any less true.

every character's encounters appropriate weight and depth

I'd disagree with that actually, but that's more of a personal opinion thing.

Re: 188

[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2009-02-24 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It's... sex? How do you fetishize sex? It's already, er, sexy.

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[identity profile] 3goodtimes.livejournal.com 2009-02-24 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I said relationships, not sex, but that was probably a bad way to word it anyway.

I just mean Torchwood is a show that writes relationships in a shallow way. Uses sex to sell, doesn't treat them with much depth. Which is fine, I suppose. A lot of shows do that, and Torchwood is at least entertaining at the same time.

I admit that this is just my personal opinion. So I hope I don't get rabid Torchwood fans yelling at me for it. That's just how I feel.

Re: 188

[identity profile] meran-flash.livejournal.com 2009-02-24 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The show doesn't explore the relationships much on screen, sure. I wouldn't actually like the show as much if it did--I'm watching people shoot aliens, I'm not really looking for a soap opera.

So yeah, the relationships aren't addressed so much. The characters are, though, which is how I prefer it handled for a show like Torchwood. The characters are very developed; when you're told that a relationship exists between two of them, then, well, that's where the fans fill in the rest.