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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-09-07 06:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #5359 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5359 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-09-08 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
The responses are hostile because we've spent 14 goddamn years explaining to people like OP what the CNTW tag is there for, why people use it, and why it's important. Anyone in this day and age claiming they just don't understand is either lying, or should not be online unsupervised.

And I disagree that most people who want content warnings are smart enough to know that the CNTW tag isn't for them. If they were, they'd just exclude it from their searches along with whatever archive warnings they want to avoid and go on about their day. The rest of us wouldn't have had to have dealt with 14 years of histrionic bullshit from people accusing us of being anywhere from callous sociopaths to indistinguishable from actual fucking rapists and torturers for using the CNTW tag.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-08 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-08 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally get the first part, which is why I said OP was being dumb and almost troll-like(but I’m pretty sure they’re being serious, which is even sadder). It’s possible some newbies can not know what it means and ask questions, but Google should be what they do first instead of asking strangers questions. Being asked about basic things like this does warrant more of a bad faith reading these days, with trolls doing their “just asking questions” routine.

I’m just speaking from experience. You might have had a lot of histrionic antis, but that doesn’t mean they’re the majority of people who need content warnings. The loudest people of any group are usually a vocal minority. Not saying this is the case, of course. But it’s just as likely it is than not.

Now antis are always bad. That’s objective fact. But people with trauma who rely on content warnings to be able to read fic just like everyone else in fandom aren’t always hypersensitive, or anything like antis. I do disagree with you, because I’ve made enough friends in fandom spaces meant to be a place that’s safe for victims to know that most of them know what to exclude when they use AO3. And don’t cause a fuss about it.

I’m not saying we’re the majority either. But our experience isn’t any more or less anecdotal than people who have experienced antis complaining about content even after seeing the warning. Questioning the intelligence of most people who want content warnings, without having any evidence that all of them would then ignore the warnings and throw a fit, is unnecessary. Your experience is valid, but so is everyone who quietly filters and excludes tags so they can read fic while being mindful of their own triggers.

I’ve been in fandom for years as well. But I understand that my experience will be different from yours. Especially because I haven’t written a fic in almost 20 years, and it was on a completely different platform(FF.N). And I never got much interaction at all, much less the shit you get from these particular awful people. I might interact in fandom spaces, but it’s an inevitably different interaction from others.

So I’m not arguing with you. Just disagreeing on how charitably most people who rely on content warnings should be treated. Your suspicion is understandable, and I would never wish to tell you to rethink your views just because I disagree with parts of them. Even with all of my personal experience, I would also be wary of the comments I would get if I wrote fic on AO3 while using this tag.