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....Um. Depends on your perspective. Zuko didn't seem emotionally supported so much as Mai just seemed to be at a loss at what to do with him (not that I can blame her for that, Zuko's high maintenance like a mofo!), and I really doubt she would have saved Sokka/Suki/Hakoda/Her Uncle if Zuko had not been on the gondola with them.

I'm just saying, if they wanted to prove she matured as a character, they could have shown a scene of her thanking Ty Lee for sacrificing herself to save her. Or maybe a scene of her writing a letter to her parents to ask if Tom-Tom ever made it back home or something equally snarky, but at least showing she cares.

I checked the meta, and while insightful, doesn't really address my questions, nor is it backed up by anything solid from the show. However, it is the best explanation I've seen thus far, so I thank you and

sistermagpie for offering me that. It doesn't quite make Mai a likable character (to me), but it's a possibility of understanding her a little more.

♥

Thanks for reading it.:-)

I actually do agree with you that in the beginning her apathy really did extend that far. Like, I think sometimes discussions of how she didn't see what she could do to help imply that Mai is inside really worried about Tom Tom but doesn't think she can do anything, but I don't think that's correct. It's more like her way of dealing with the world is to cut herself off from emotions that much that she really isn't feeling any. If Tom Tom had died, Mai's apathy would have continued and she'd say she didn't care. And since she's not a main character and she's not a character who shows much in the way of feeling, it really is hard to point to anything on the show as proof that she's feeling anything underneath if she even is.

So for me it's just like the simplest way to interpret her is to look at how she's defined by apathy, by not caring about anything to the point of coldly leaving her brother's fate up to somebody else and never turning back. Other people always point out she's the one who "doesn't care" about anything. Zuko, though, she's comfortable saying she cares about. Then in BR, after talking to Zuko, she suddenly does this OOC by fighting against Azula and the FN guards.

I don't think she would have saved the GAang if Zuko hadn't been with them. But not just because Zuko's the one who's her boyfriend. Without Zuko she wouldn't see anything worthy in their cause anyway. It's more, imo, that she's going to jump over to Zuko's side because she believes in him. She's choosing to be more like him in that moment, not apologizing for any former misdeeds or regretting anything that we know about.

Regardless of whether or not I agree, a well-written opinion deserves a well written response. I hope I have been able to give you that much.

I have to say, of all those who would defend Mai, you've done so without so much making excuses as giving a possible interpretation as to why--while this does nothing to endear her to me, it helps to fill in a couple of the gaps, or at the very least, allow me to see it from another possible angle. I really appreciate that!

To be honest, I did not enjoy S3 very much (not just due to the "shipping"), as the writing felt very shoddy in comparison to the previous seasons--Mai is just one of the many characters that seemed to be gypped by it, and I do have my gripes with several of the other characters and the way things were written, so I hope you can see that I'm not trying to mindlessly bash Mai or single her out.

tl;dr--thank you for the rational discussion and not lumping me in with the crazy butthurt shippers. :3

Thanks! I do think it's unfortunate that because some people hate characters because of shipping other people get that accusation when it doesn't fit at all. Sometimes having more understanding of where the characters or the writers were coming from makes you like the character more--sometimes you get it but you still just don't like the character.

Ugh. Character bashing because they get in the way of your ship is utterly petty and lame. There is far more to the show than who is snogging whom--if you're gonna go as far as to hate a character, hate them for the right reasons, not because they're getting face time with your fictional woobie of choice.

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