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⌈ Secret Post #5374 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

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Uh, why is that percentage ridiculous?
26/64 = 40.625% (1 grandparent {1/4=16/64}, 1 great-grandparent {1/8=8/64}, and 1 great, great, great grandparent {1/32=2/64} in different lines)
51/128 = 39.84375% (1 grandparent {1/4=32/128}, 1 great-grandparent {1/8=16/128}, 1 great, great, great, great grandparent {1/64=2/128}, and 1 great, great, great, great, great grandparent {1/128} in different lines) hard to track, but not impossible
Rounding either of those to 40% seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Now, that's not to say that this person wasn't making it up, just that any percentage is feasible if you can go back far enough.

[(Anonymous)]

Because she said her dad was Native American and her grandmother was Roma.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Okay. Many tribes have their own ways of determining whether someone is of that tribe (for some it is at least 1/2, for others its being able to trace lineage back to a group of tribe members). If someone is more than half, most tribes would call that person a member of that tribe and that person would likely consider themselves Native American. So, her father could consider himself fully Lakota, but actually be about 80% (1 parent full, 1 parent half, plus some ancestry further back for the non-Native American grandparent), making her 40% claim true and her maternal grandmother could be Roma. Or he could be 75% which would make this person 37.5% (which could be rounded to 40) and her maternal grandmother could be Roma or her paternal grandmother could be half Roma.

So, I'm not saying she was telling the truth, I'm just saying that a percentage like that with the given racial/ethnic labels is not impossible. Ancestry can be weird and confusing and I find it fascinating. All that being said, I'm probably missing a lot of information. I was just mostly reacting to idea that someone couldn't be 40% something.

[(Anonymous)]

I will never cease to be baffled at this incredibly American bloodline percentage nonsense.

[(Anonymous)]

bloodlines are very important for TRIBAL systems of government and leadership, not AMERICAN definitions (though there have been those historically, like the 'one drop' rule and all that shit). but casting a spurious eye on tribal systems for using a bloodline to determine tribal inclusion is not AMERICAN because native tribes are NOT AMERICAN. -a native who does not identify with colonial culture

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, no, to the rest of the world, "I'm x % this ethnicity" is one of the most American things you can say.

[(Anonymous)]

Then the rest of the world is willfully ignorant about tribal culture. We already knew that, but thank you for proving it further.

[(Anonymous)]

The vast majority of people stating their ancestry percentages all the time are not actually Native Americans though.

[(Anonymous)]

That part is very true. It’s all moot in that regard anyway. So I don’t know why I decided to respond like a self-righteous jackass about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Ew, don't speak for the rest of us. There are people in non-Americaland who are nonetheless more educated than you on this subject.

[(Anonymous)]

It is a little weird, but in the case of Native Americans, it can have actual legal consequences. Because it has to do with how each member gets federal and tribal benefits - including things like healthcare or money from any businesses the tribe might own (like, say, a casino). Reservations are under federal jurisdiction, but there is some weirdness because the US is set up as state system (there are several tribes in the state where I live and years back the federal government sent money earmarked for Native American education and the state took some of it and the tribes had to sue to get the money where it was supposed to go).

[(Anonymous)]

Percentages and fractions of ethnicities are important for other minority groups too for similar reasons, such as financial aid for education. Chalking it up to stupid American nonsense really shows how eager people are to turn their noses up at anything American without even understanding why it exists.

You know what? Even if there was no reason for Americans to talk about their percentages other than it being fun, it would still be harmless. If any other country were known for having people who could do that, the world would think it was awesome.

[seashadows]

Eh, while that's true, she was also saying that he grew up on a reservation in the wrong state for that particular tribe, so Occam's razor says that she's one of those people who doesn't know how genetics works and thinks you can add up percentages.