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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-09-28 06:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #5380 ]


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(Anonymous) 2021-09-28 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel the same way about the show Bar Rescue because it's the same way, you hear all about the financial issues of the bar owners. In the case of particularly stubborn owners, I think its all a matter of their own foolish pride. I google a lot of the bars and am pleasantly surprised when they're still in operation because so many revert to their old ways and go under.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-09-28 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so ambivalent about it because I think fundamentally a lot of these people need therapy and not to be managers, and I don't think Ramsey (or any host) is capable of providing that requirement, lmao. The debt just makes it inexplicable.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-28 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I think in most of these cases, if they made good financial and managerial decisions, they wouldn't end up in these straits in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-29 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I know that in the UK up until the mid nineties, opening a pub-restaurant was pretty much a part time-retirement type of job and business. There wasn't much to it, you put up the barsign, and printed out a few menus, and people pretty much just showed up. If you made it through the first year, then it was seen as a stable business that would see you through the next couple of decades until it was carpet slippers and incontinence pad time.

So a lot of people who got into the industry before about 94/95, they didn't need to be good at money management, they didn't need to have a great menus (and the target demographic of pub restaurants were people to whom roast beef and brussel sprouts were haute cuisine anyway), and you certainly didn't need to ever change that menu once your regulars had congealed around it. Then in the mid nineties the big demographic change hit, the old regs got too few in number, and the new customers wanted experiences and variation. And they didn't automatically show up no matter what else was going on either. And a lot of older publicans just couldn't cope with that change, mainly because they were the same age as the old regulars themselves and often their cronies as much as customers. They were in right over their heads by the time the show came along. And then there were the johnny come latelys, a little younger that the old guard but not by much, but were the upper middle-middle class, who had never had to pay attention to demographics and raised on the same stories as the old guard, who expected the same breaks as the old guys had. And they were in even further over their head, because they didn't even have a few years experience in pub-restaurant management to fall back on. All they had were stories of what it ought to be like.

Ramsey came in about ten years after that big shift, which was just the right time to see the industry collapsing and the ones who'd been floundering for a few years really hitting the endgame.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-29 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting bg info on this, thanks nonny!

(Anonymous) 2021-09-29 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
RamsAy. With an A. Why do people keep putting a freaking E in there, his name is IN the title of half his bloody shows!

But also yes, I agree, the British version is better than the American one. I like that we see more of Gordon helping in the kitchen and doing team building activites and promotions in the streets with the staff. In the US series it's just drama with the owners or chef, then very quickly at the end he gives them a new menu and a resturant makeover.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-29 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Typo maybe?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-29 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
I want to see retellings that take the fairytales that are already dark and sinister and make them comedic or satirical. Like, it's Bluebeard but instead of serial uxoricide, it's a Taika Waititi-esque series of wacky misunderstandings.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-29 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I love this idea!