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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-10-14 06:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #5396 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5396 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-15 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
When this strawman is used it always shows how out of touch one is with how trans headcanons work nowadays. Nobody does what you're talking about anymore and hasn't for a long time. Almost all trans headcanons involve a character who is HCed to have already transitioned, no "I think this canon boy is really a girl because she has long hair and wore pink once."

For example, you will always get "Sasuke Uchiha is a trans boy" (who is a boy in canon because he's post transitioning), not "Sasuke Uchiha is a trans girl" (who is still canonically a "boy" because she's not come out yet). And usually the reason the HC exists is because the person doing it is trans and wants their fave to be trans, by their own admission.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-15 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Your anecdotal evidence is just as invalid as ayrt's. Or mine, for that matter, because I have certainly seen what ayrt describes more often than your version. So you're just using a strawman as well.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-15 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
Not at all. They’re experiences are actually the norm now, not anecdotal. It’s far more common to find what they’re talking about across the board, and you can easily find this out with a search on AO3/Tumblr/Google in general. You just don’t want to budge from your position, no matter how shaky the foundation is.

SA

(Anonymous) 2021-10-15 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
Also, you clearly don’t know what a strawman is if you think you can just “No U” someone else’s use of the term.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-15 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
Except it's not? Just because you believe this doesn't make it true. Everything you accuse me of works the other way around - unless you actually have any real data other than "because I say so", your assertions are just as valid or invalid as mine.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-15 11:30 am (UTC)(link)
I did say the search engine on AO3 is the best way to find out what type of headcanon is more prevalent, but okay.

There’s a significant amount of both kinds of what has been mentioned in the thread wherever you look, but looking through will bring more pre-canon transition examples.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-15 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? Because I see everywhere, in response to a male character showing stereotypically feminine interests, that he MUST be Secretly Trans. It makes me, a real actual trans person, sick how gender essentialist it is. We already have to perform to strict stereotypes to be affirmed.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-16 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a substantial amount of the types of headcanons you and the other anon are talking about, like I said to them. And it’s obviously insensitive of the people who aren’t trans making these headcanons for everyone to see, flaunting their ignorance about the subject. Uncaring of who they may hurt using these rigid gender stereotypes to pretend they understand being trans, because they want brownie points.

I was just pointing out that searching AO3, Tumblr, and Google(especially AO3) reveals that those headcanons are edged out by people who write characters as having transitioned into the gender identity they started with in canon. For every “This canon male character is non-traditionally masculine, they must be MTF trans, that’s the only explanation”, there’s just a bit more “This character is canonically male in canon, but what if they were FTM before the story started?”.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-15 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Buttercup is the most commonly headcanoned as trans character I have ever seen. ...As a trans boy.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-16 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay? I get that that’s annoying, because I agree that is. But doesn’t that seem just as anecdotal that you only provided one character?

(Anonymous) 2021-10-17 10:00 am (UTC)(link)
Oh hi again, Trans Buttercup anon. Maybe your problem is that you should try branching into some fandoms that aren't one cartoon from the 90s?