[ SECRET POST #5399 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5399 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I roll my eyes when people are like "why was anyone invested in this relationship? Why do you think their marriage is any of your business?" Because, I mean, he made it the fans business when he repeatedly incorporated stories about his marriage into his act. He was banking on people caring and they did.

[(Anonymous)]

i'll never understand this sort of sentiment. if someone shares something about themselves they need to be okay with people prying into everything? if someone shares something about themselves it becomes your "business"?

nah man. parasocial nonsense

[(Anonymous)]

People thinking that Mulaney's a hypocrite when they find out about his infidelity =/= prying into everything. If you decide to associate yourself with [thing] and then startling information comes to light about [thing] then yeah, people are going to have opinions about it. That's not parasocial.

[(Anonymous)]

no, thinking something is hypocritical is not parasocial, but you explicitely talked about people being invested in the relationship and that it is their business, which is exactly parasocial.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't understand how you would say he's "hypocritical"

[(Anonymous)]

I'm someone who dislikes how parasocial a lot of media has gotten, especially streamers and YouTubers, and I still don't consider this exactly the same. He talked about his girlfriend and then wife all the time in his act. A lot of his act was about his personal life. He talked about his wife and relationship with drugs. It was a big part of it. That's why when both things are involved in something like this, there was a big reaction.

It's kinda like if say a comedian who talked a lot about a topic had a falling out with the topic, whether it's a hobby or something else.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, misfired to the wrong anon. well, same sentiment.

[(Anonymous)]

In my opinion, in general, when a comedian says something about their life in their act you should think of it as part of their act. A responsible mature spectator should generally grasp that a performance is a performance and distinct from the actual living person off the stage, even if the performance involves talking about their personal lives.

And I also disagree that discussion of a personal life in a performance is some kind of calculated ploy to trap people into being parasocial.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Fucking this.

[(Anonymous)]

+3

Agreed. For the last part, I mean if you look at most comedians (through time), much of their material stems from lived experiences/observations. That's part and parcel of comedy.

I will say, a fan of a comedian (or anything for that matter) might get more invested for any number of reasons (not just a responsible mature viewer) -- maybe they really identify with the work, or they learn more about the person in question in interviews and identify/admire them etc. So when something does happen, it's a bit of a blow (because the line that has been drawn between them and the person is, for the viewer, closer than that for the casual observer). I have a friend who loves John Mulaney. For a few reasons she was upset about the whole thing, but she still watches his comedy (there's still that space without it becoming something parasocial, she doesn't feel like they're friends or anything). I am more of a casual watcher of his, and thus shrugged/that sucks and hoped the best for the both of them.