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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-11-22 07:16 pm

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Spite-reading C.S. Pacat's _Dark Rise_...

(Anonymous) 2021-11-23 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
I did get through Susan Cooper's Dark is Rising series and that was a trip in itself because I hadn't read them for years. I've only just started Pacat's novel and honestly? IMO it draws more from Tolkien than Cooper. Yeah, yeah, the whole dark vs. light is there, but that's pretty well worn territory for fantasy. But there's the concepts of Stewards who fight to keep back the return of the Dark King, and the fact that there were previously four kings who did this, but they accepted some Faustian bargain and became ringwraiths shadow thingies, blah blah blah. The Dark King is named "Sarcean". There's a corrupted magic sword named "Ekthalion". I'm sure a more hardcore Tolkien fan could pick out more.

It's weird because... well, why call out Cooper in that tedious twitter thread and act like she's the one at fault for writing non-inclusive fantasy when you meant Tolkien? Why purposefully use Cooper's "dark is rising" theme and a character named Will when you're actually going to go for a more Middle Earth feel? I mean, if Pacat hadn't named it "Dark Rise" and had a character named Will, I probably wouldn't have connected it to Susan Cooper at all.

Re: Spite-reading C.S. Pacat's _Dark Rise_...

(Anonymous) 2021-11-23 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
We appreciate your sacrifice.

She also mentioned Tolkien in that thread (among the "pastoral fantasy stories" she allegedly wanted to subvert).
I think she explicitly mentioned Cooper because someone on twitter quoted a passage from TDiR in vague hint at her summary having some very suspicious similarities.
Iirc, it went something along the lines of: Pacat/someone from the publisher posting some meaningful quote (tm) from the book as a sneak peak ad - someone qrt-ing it at someone else both of whom apparently talked about the Cooper summary similarities - the person getting tweeted at commenting the Cooper passage in reply because the original Pacat quote sounded similar - Pacat seeing it, getting pissy and writing that cringe thread.