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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-03-07 04:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #792 ]


⌈ Secret Post #792 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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109, 115, 117

[identity profile] likespring.livejournal.com 2009-03-07 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
109. o rly.

115. I can only read Harry/Draco where Harry's cheating on Ginny if it's known and expressed that it's mean and unfair to Ginny (and possibly, as such, is angsty). I will usually skip out on fic where it's not an issue at all and definitely will if there's a bunch of Ginny-bashing. There's no need to bash the female characters for the sake of slash.

117. I don't believe slash is inherently anti-feminist because some slash has female characters in great roles (and some fic addresses feminist issues even) -- saying that would be like saying het is automatically feminist, imo, which it's obviously not. But I do agree that the practice within slash fandom of ignoring women has a lot of pathetic excuses.

Re: 109, 115, 117

(Anonymous) 2009-03-07 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
this.

115 OP

(Anonymous) 2009-03-07 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I see what you're saying. If it's recognised and/or a plot point that Harry is treating Ginny like shit, then at least they get it. But when people just act like it's totally okay for Harry to cheat on Ginny because he's gay (my ex was gay and cheated instead of telling me) and therefore isn't attracted to her, that bothers me. I generally don't read even the angsty ones where Harry's cheating is a plot point, but I tend to think those authors understand relationships a bit better.

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[identity profile] duae.livejournal.com 2009-03-08 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
I think... accusing slash fans of anti-feminist is rather like accusing Criminal Mind fans of Reid as obviously being KKK nazi skinheads because their favorite character isn't Morgan.

Or for that matter... saying you think a Golliwog http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/1930-golliwog.jpg isn't a very good depiction of a person of African ancestry doesn't make one racist, it's criticizing THAT depiction.

In fact, I think it's sort of the opposite, arguing for more equal female characters IS very feminist, as long as the people arguing think it through and doesn't just dismiss them because they are female.