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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-03-07 04:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #792 ]


⌈ Secret Post #792 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2009-03-07 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
117. Now I really don't get it. Perhaps because I don't necessarily subscribe to the whole f/f porn = misogynist. Some of it is, some of it (especially those aimed at the lesbian and bi crowd) is not.

Fan fiction, in my experience, is largely directed at a female audience - be it gen, het, m/m, or f/f. Femslash also caters to women in ways canon doesn't dare to, and yet I don't see slashers raving about how feminist femslash is, because everyone seems too busy writing about a guy fucking another up the ass. Het can also be about breaking the boundaries of canon.

I just don't see how writing m/m automatically equals fulfillment as a feminism. I don't think it's wrong, and I don't think it's anti-feminist - except when a slasher says it's about feminism, then I go "lolWHUT?"
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[personal profile] thene 2009-03-07 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Femslash also caters to women in ways canon doesn't dare to, and yet I don't see slashers raving about how feminist femslash is - I'm kinda surprised by that; are you sure it's actually a difference of opinions rather than a matter of popularity, ie, there's just more women turned on by men than turned on by women? Because your statement doesn't strike me as controversial at all; of course femslash caters to women in ways canon doesn't dare to.

For me, the difference when writing het pairings is that I'm rarely treading on ground that canon seems averse to. Maybe because most of my het pairings are canon, I'm not sure.

We all find fulfilment in different places - nothing's ever automatic. But for me feminism comes into it because I'm writing for women, and building fanon with other women, while in the 'real world' genre writing supposedly HAS to be pitched to appeal to men.