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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-11-24 04:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #5437 ]


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(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
The idea that sexual attraction is ONLY about reproduction is so reductive, so limited, and so heteronormative I don't even know where to start. Yes, creepy men use arguments like this to creep on women much younger than them. It's horrible and disgusting.

I don't care about sperm and eggs. If Waffle House had a sperm & egg omelette, I wouldn't order it.

Sex isn't about breeding. Sex is about ENJOYING SEX. Older people are more likely to have more experience and therefore be better at sex just by practice, and that is sexier than your bizarre metric of "fertility." Sex is about consensual enjoyment.

(When I was a young woman of the ages that you fetishize, getting pregnant was my biggest fear. I couldn't imagine anything worse, including death. Anyone fetishizing me for my ~fertility~ would not have been anyone who listened to me or cared about me.)

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
You know what's one thing more creepy than old men hitting on 20 somethings? 20 something hitting on teenagers, because they think they're still "unripe, green" minors. The solution to creepy men isn't to be creepy women and deny biological facts, but to acknowledge that people age and it's ok. It's ok to not be at your peak.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 10:24 am (UTC)(link)
The best thing is realizing that your 20s and 30s are NOT, in fact, your peak. In my experience, sex is way more enjoyable in your 40s and 50s, because you have well-earned experience, including having tried out a whole lot of shit that didn't work. You have learned how to communicate and how to say no and how to say yes.

I wouldn't fuck a 20-year-old at gunpoint even though they're legal. They're ugly to me, and also socially boring. There's this weird assumption that smoothed-faced barely-adults are attractive to everyone. They're not. Life experience matters far more than looks.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
Physical maturity doesn't necessarily have anything to do with sex being enjoyable. When I say "peak" I mean the point in your life where your body and brain is at its top development, adaptability, and performance. And though exceptions exist, for vast majority of older adults their body is starting to give them problems: their hair begins to fall out, their skin loses elasticity, their back and bones hurt more often, their eye-sight gets worse, they learn at a much slower rate, and they have less energy overall. And that's ok! It's a normal part of life. But it's silly to act like your peak is at the point where your body is doing worse than it used to. I think it should give us a lot to think about the fact that the current state of economy is so bad, that we spend our best years slaving away in low-tier positions and by the time we become financially stable and can actually enjoy adulthood, we're already at the point where our body makes it harder to enjoy these freedoms.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
You're so bizarrely obsessed with the idea that when your body changes in aging, the sex gets worse.

Sex is an art. The more you have practiced it in youth, the better able you'll be able to maintain it in age. And you're acting like the aches and pains of middle age are somehow debilitating? that's bizarre. There's actually a real problem with STDs spreading in old age homes, because people in their 70s and 80s still like to fuck, and enjoy it.

I don't know why you're so obsessed with "peak." Who cares about peak anything? The point is, humans pursue pleasure whatever their age. I'm 52 and I'm not feeling that much of your weird screed applies to me yet.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
Or maybe unlike you I actually do wish I had gotten a partner and kids at the time when it was still physically possible for me. I spent my youth telling myself and everyone around me that I'm aroace and childfree, but after many, many years I've come to realize that what I actually was, was damaged from witnessing the mother's abuse at the hands of all the men she got involved with. I told myself I don't desire relationships and children, because I mentally associated those things with suffering and abuse, and because I wasn't financially stable enough to even think about starting a family. And when after many years I managed to heal, it turned out that there's a biological barrier preventing me from achieving this. So seeing all those comments from women, who didn't have a similar experience, isn't going to make me feel any better about wasting my youth.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

OK?

I DO have a partner, I don't understand why you assume I don't. You have issues around youth and fertility that have nothing to do with attraction and sex, and I'm so sorry you went through that. But your chance of finding love has NOT passed, not matter your age.

(I don't regret not having kids though, never wanted that, and people were so smug and controlling saying IF YOU DON'T HAVE KIDS YOUNG YOU'LL REGRET IT. Nah, that never happened.)

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you continue to not want to have kids, but I do wish i had them, so your experience doesn't make me feel better about mine. And I don't care about finding "love", although age affects that too, seeing as most people my age are either already happily married, or are mentally damaged just like me and making it work between two damaged people without risking inflicting even more damage is extremely hard. I want to have what I saw my friends experience when we were young and I wasn't yet mentally or financially stable enough to have. And it makes me bitter that this possibility is now locked forever from me, because of my age. Normally it's something I can cope with and try to find happiness elsewhere, but when I see people act like being old is so awesome and doesn't lock any doors forever, it makes me angry. Being young is objectively better than being old, because when you're young you can always grow older and enjoy the benefits of that, but when you're old you will never be young again.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
WOW. You are having a huge meltdown and trauma dump over me. Can you not, please. I don't even know you.

I see this bullshit: Being young is objectively better than being old, because when you're young you can always grow older and enjoy the benefits of that, but when you're old you will never be young again.

and I raise you this: Being older is objectively better than being young. Because when you're older, you can look back on the mistakes you made when you were young, and learn from them. Life is trial and error. The only way to learn about life is by experience. No one is handed a user's manual.

Also, being young sucks if you're a woman trying to make your way professionally. Smug men will always treat you like a child no matter how accomplished and well studied you are. You only get to shout back in a slim window between 30 and 40.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
"I struggle with infertility" "What a great learning experience! Rejoice!"

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Who even mentioned infertility? That was literally never mentioned anywhere in this thread!

(Anonymous) 2021-11-28 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
I hope you realise that people partner up at any age and families are formed beyond biological reproduction.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 11:07 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, the "peak" of your brain and your body are two different times. Your body peaks around 25. Your brain peaks around 40.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
Can you point to credible studies on this? I'd love to read them, because all the studies I've read put the peak of brain development at around 25.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 11:42 am (UTC)(link)
Most of the studies (which are mostly pop-psychology bs) say the brain is only fully developed at 25, meaning any age under that is unfinished. The brain only becomes fully adult at 25. That's the beginning of maturity, not the end.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of those same studies also show the brain begins to deteriorate after reaching this age.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
So based on these pop culture science studies, you're a child until you're 25 and you're declining after that.

Ask yourself, who wants to push that narrative? (The way to keep maintaining and developing the brain is to keep exercising it, by challenging yourself to learn new things at all times.) An unexercised brain will start deteroriating if the person only does passive repetitive work, but if you have work that inspires and motivates you - or at least enough leisure to time to read books or do art or whatever - you will keep growing in mind up until at least your 70s or 80s.

Who wants to push that narrative, that we're expected to wind down after we're physically weaker or less pretty? The people who make money off the glamorization of exploiting youth labor.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-26 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
So many great artists and writers did their best work in their last decades of life. They'd spent all their lives building up to this, and they delivered. Experience trains the brain.