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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-11-29 04:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #5442 ]


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(Anonymous) 2021-11-29 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with you, OP.
I HATE reader/character fics and always running across them in fandom. I find them intensely creepy and bizarre. And also kinda narcissistic. As in 'here's my sexual fantasy of banging Mando. Maybe you can get off too.'

(Anonymous) 2021-11-30 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's a big part of why I can't get into them, either. I get having fantasies about characters and celebrities, of course - I've done that, too. And I can see someone writing them down, just for the fun of it.

But it seems odd to share them with the public, because they're often so specific and niche. My fantasies never seem to match up with what other fans' fantasies tend to involve, so...it's hard to get invested as a result.
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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2021-11-30 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed, I've seen some that aren't even smutty (being ace, automatically trying to think of myself in the situation is insta-nope) but just "reader is dating character and doing coupley things together" and just, man, that is not what I would be doing if I was hanging out with that character and "you" never acts anything like me, hahaha.

Which takes me back to the ones that ARE smutty and I'm thinking "Is that really what they want to do with that character? They wrote it down and published it in public?" I mean, if that's what they want to do, okay, but I am so not in fandom for that, I'll pass.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-30 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I entered fandom via self inserts many moons ago, and while, yes, I can see why the smutty ones especially are kind of "here's my fantasy", I don't find it any more different than MC1xMC2 smut fics. Granted, I always read self inserts as avatars/OCs. So again, to me it's essentially no different than a smut scene between two canon characters.

All that said, I can tell you I got into self inserts because the source media for the fandom I was in (all before 2010) did not have people who looked like me despite taking place in a setting where historically and currently is full of people who did look like me (to varying degrees)! It was very frustrating. So self inserts/OCs that get close to the MCs gave me a way to see myself/someone like me go on adventures, find love, be beautiful and amazing, and indulge in a space where I wasn't necessarily included by the source. Fandom spaces clearly being low on the bar for where people have representation (in comparison to positions of power etc.), but that's what this space has always been to me. I can make room for myself and others like me/anyone who wants to read that story. I've found more and more authors doing that and it makes me so happy. So that's a bullet a point that can be added to the usual "space where people (usually young women) can explore their sexuality/desires/what have you"/self inserts are just horny mary-sues argument (I have no problem with either, frankly. You gotta enjoy life!).

(Anonymous) 2021-11-30 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the explanation! I don't do self-inserts myself, so I appreciate the context.

(Anonymous) 2021-11-30 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
oh, Same on everything! It tends to be Character/OC or /Cooler "me".