[ SECRET POST #5450 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5450 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Because it's not like always being assumed gay and denying it is ever done as plot to foreshadow that a character is gay and in the closet/denial....

I only saw a couple episodes of Sherlock and don't care one way or another about Johnlock, but in principle this is a bad way to a make your case against it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah... it's not exactly rare for a character who's supposed to be in denial, or wink-wink-nudge-nudge not straight, to basically have a running dialogue that goes like "I'm not gay, I just have an extremely close and important bond with another man, but totes not gay, but this other character kinda implies we're in love, but I'm super not gay!!!!!" Usually it's played for laughs though.

[(Anonymous)]

Is that really a thing in mainstream media? No, really, name some examples of prominently gay characters who start out as running gay jokes and then come out. Queer characters in mainstream media either show up queer, or the writers develop a "coming out" arc for some existing character whose straightness hasn't been too well-established previously.

That trope IS a thing in fanfic.

[(Anonymous)]

There’s Mac from It’s always Sunny in Philadelphia, for one. And really, there’s reason the tropes ‘Have I Mentioned I’m Heterosexual Today?’ and ‘Armored Closet Gay’ exist on TV Tropes, and that’s just the name of the trope there. It goes by other names elsewhere, such as ‘The Homophobic Hypocrite’, as displayed in this Rantasmo video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sD_vMrmX4c4

So yes, this kind of thing does appear in mainstream media, and isn’t just some device invented for and only used in fanfic.

That doesn’t mean that it’s justified to act like a character will always end up gay just because of a running joke. And the running jokes themselves can frequently be a offensive themselves, being based purely on stereotypes and outdated views. So actually going down the path that the fandom wants when there’s no real basis but jokes and stereotypes wouldn’t always be a great idea for representation.

Plus, I just personally think JohnLock would have been a terrible relationship, in BBC Sherlock at least. So queerbaited or not, I’m not the least bit upset the writers never went down that path.

[(Anonymous)]

Arrested Development is a pretty blatant one.