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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-03-13 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #798 ]


⌈ Secret Post #798 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Norio Wakamoto]


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[Bones]


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[Iron Chef]


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[Mai-HiME]


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[Blazing Saddles]


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[Secret Life of the American Teenager; Grace/Adrian]


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[Interview with a Vampire]


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[Samurai Deeper Kyo]


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Notes:

For some reason, tinypic is REALLY screwing up. There are 25 or so more secrets left from last week, I'll add them to next week's pile and hopefully the site will be working by then.

eta: I'll be adding secrets as tinypic starts working again, so refresh once in a while!

eta2: All secrets are up.

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Re: 113 OP

(Anonymous) 2009-03-14 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
Whoa, did I sound like I was yelling at you? I didn't mean it that way. I wasn't accusing you of being oversenstive and making fandom into serious business. I totally understand why a person would be put off by Godot's sexism, especially why a woman would be put off by Godot's sexism (not because women are more easily offended or sensitive or whatever, but because hey, they're the ones who would personally be affected by the behavior of these characters.)

I'm not going to assume what gender you are, OP, because I'm usually always wrong when I make those kind of guesses. But whatever you are, it's totally okay if sexism (especially Godot-level sexism) is an automatic put-off. I'm a girl, and because of that, I feel that there's a little bit of pressure to not like a character with sexist tendencies, if that makes any sense, and I feel like I'm kind of weird for recognizing Godot's sexist tendencies and still liking him.

It's probably my love of the Miego that keeps me liking him, but then again, one of the reasons I like the Miego is because he seems to get a little less sexist when he's dealing with her- again with the whole changing from "kitten" to "Mia" thing. We didn't see a lot of their relationship afterwards, but I liked to believe he treated her as an equal, or at least as a respected subordinate kohai type. And I'm not defending his sexism at all, but it does seem like "Mia couldn't protect herself!" was sort of a defense mechanism for dealing with her murder- the killer couldn't hold all the responsibility because he was already brought to justice and Godot couldn't change anything, and Mia couldn't be held responsible for her own death because he loved her and could never blame her for getting murdered. so of course it was because she didn't have a man there to protect her. I like to think knowing and caring about a strong, capable woman made Godot a little less of a chauvanist pig even if losing her caused him to spiral back into those sort of habits, but that's just my fanon interpretation of it.

So I guess it's kind of a cycle. I put up with his traits I really dislike because I really like other things about him, but I like the other things about him partially because they minimize his bad traits. In my headcanon.

I feel like a lot of Godot's fans, instead of saying "he's sexist, but I don't think that's a big deal", or "he's sexist, but while that bugs me he's too awesome overall to throw out the baby with the bathwater", completely deny or forget that he's a sexist at all. And that bugs me- people shouldn't ignore traits about characters they like just to continue liking them- it's like people who say they have to forget that meat comes from animals in order not to feel guilty about eating it (a personal pet peeve of mine.) We might not agree on whether to like Godot, but at least we're not burying our heads in the sand to his flaws.

tl;dr: Sexism is totally a valid reason to dislike characters, and it's something people should at least notice about the characters they like, especially when it's blatant. I'm a little worried that I should feel how you do, too, but I don't.